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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
March 03 2014 09:22 GMT
#15841
That sort thing is heavily dependent on who the tusk's laning partner is, and which heroes your friend and his lane partner are playing.
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Tuco
Profile Joined September 2010
China200 Posts
March 03 2014 13:33 GMT
#15842
Quite a while ago i watched some videos on youtube of an older chinese warcraft 3 dota player playing dota 2 and commenting at the same time. i can't remember his name nor can i find the videos, does anyone know the vids i'm talking about? they were really good.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
March 03 2014 15:02 GMT
#15843
Is there a general rule of thumb about who to attack in a team fight? There's never been any rhyme or reason in my play in this regard.
Do I go for the squishy supports first? Focus down the heavy damage dealing carry? Unload on the closest, most out of position enemy? Defend myself against the one trying to kill me? Destroy the enemy with the dangerous ulti before he can use it? Finish off the wounded one who is trying to escape? Join in on who my teammates are attacking? Get rid of the one who is threatening an important teammate? Do I attack those with an escape mechanism when there is an opportunity?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
March 03 2014 15:07 GMT
#15844
On March 03 2014 22:33 Tuco wrote:
Quite a while ago i watched some videos on youtube of an older chinese warcraft 3 dota player playing dota 2 and commenting at the same time. i can't remember his name nor can i find the videos, does anyone know the vids i'm talking about? they were really good.

2009.
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MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
March 03 2014 15:34 GMT
#15845
On March 04 2014 00:02 Scorch wrote:
Is there a general rule of thumb about who to attack in a team fight? There's never been any rhyme or reason in my play in this regard.
Do I go for the squishy supports first? Focus down the heavy damage dealing carry? Unload on the closest, most out of position enemy? Defend myself against the one trying to kill me? Destroy the enemy with the dangerous ulti before he can use it? Finish off the wounded one who is trying to escape? Join in on who my teammates are attacking? Get rid of the one who is threatening an important teammate? Do I attack those with an escape mechanism when there is an opportunity?



play urgent before big.

depends so much on team composition and what heroes you have
focusing ignores the cc on other heroes around the focus.

usually its urgent to lock someone down and huge to kill someone but they are not necessarily the same hero.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 03 2014 15:51 GMT
#15846
On March 04 2014 00:07 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 22:33 Tuco wrote:
Quite a while ago i watched some videos on youtube of an older chinese warcraft 3 dota player playing dota 2 and commenting at the same time. i can't remember his name nor can i find the videos, does anyone know the vids i'm talking about? they were really good.

2009.

If it's DotA 2, it's probably not 2009. 2009's only done ~3 DotA 2 videos and otherwise has only done DotA 1. 820 or YaphetS are the most prominent players to have done a significant number of DotA 2 videos.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
March 03 2014 15:55 GMT
#15847
Didn't see the part about him playing dota 2, whoops.
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Lavitage2
Profile Joined June 2012
198 Posts
March 03 2014 23:00 GMT
#15848
If gyro activates flak cannon then gets doomed do his next few autoattacks still get the big AoE?
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 03 2014 23:58 GMT
#15849
yes
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 00:21:35
March 03 2014 23:59 GMT
#15850
On March 04 2014 08:00 Lavitage2 wrote:
If gyro activates flak cannon then gets doomed do his next few autoattacks still get the big AoE?

No. It removes positive buffs from the target.

On March 04 2014 08:58 Kupon3ss wrote:
yes


Now I'm less sure..

edit: Dota wiki tells us that the passives from gyrocopter's flak cannon and rocket barrage both gets disabled by Doom (as well as LC's ulti)
Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
March 04 2014 00:30 GMT
#15851
On March 03 2014 22:33 Tuco wrote:
Quite a while ago i watched some videos on youtube of an older chinese warcraft 3 dota player playing dota 2 and commenting at the same time. i can't remember his name nor can i find the videos, does anyone know the vids i'm talking about? they were really good.


Was he playing against Demon Stack?



[10:23pm] Gosi: I want to be famous and have many twitter followers and get blowjobs during tournements at the bathroom [10:23pm] Gosi: do i play mnid or support for thhat [10:23pm] Gosi: u tell me
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 00:50:16
March 04 2014 00:43 GMT
#15852
On March 04 2014 08:59 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 08:00 Lavitage2 wrote:
If gyro activates flak cannon then gets doomed do his next few autoattacks still get the big AoE?

No. It removes positive buffs from the target.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 08:58 Kupon3ss wrote:
yes


Now I'm less sure..

edit: Dota wiki tells us that the passives from gyrocopter's flak cannon and rocket barrage both gets disabled by Doom (as well as LC's ulti)

Correct, though for the record, the Purge portion is not why Flak Cannon is disabled. The base ability for Flak Cannon is actually Chemical Rage, which is not purge-able. It transforms Gyrocopter into a unit with permanent Split Shot and reverts him after the duration or the specified number of attacks. The reason that Doom disables Flak Cannon is because Doom disables Split Shot based passive abilities as well (note how Medusa's Split Shot is disabled even if you toggled it on before you were Doomed).

Also note that this interaction was bugged in DotA 2 till mid last year, so Kupon might be misremembering based on the bugged state in DotA 2 for a long time.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
March 04 2014 01:18 GMT
#15853
On March 04 2014 09:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 08:59 Excludos wrote:
On March 04 2014 08:00 Lavitage2 wrote:
If gyro activates flak cannon then gets doomed do his next few autoattacks still get the big AoE?

No. It removes positive buffs from the target.

On March 04 2014 08:58 Kupon3ss wrote:
yes


Now I'm less sure..

edit: Dota wiki tells us that the passives from gyrocopter's flak cannon and rocket barrage both gets disabled by Doom (as well as LC's ulti)

Correct, though for the record, the Purge portion is not why Flak Cannon is disabled. The base ability for Flak Cannon is actually Chemical Rage, which is not purge-able. It transforms Gyrocopter into a unit with permanent Split Shot and reverts him after the duration or the specified number of attacks. The reason that Doom disables Flak Cannon is because Doom disables Split Shot based passive abilities as well (note how Medusa's Split Shot is disabled even if you toggled it on before you were Doomed).

Also note that this interaction was bugged in DotA 2 till mid last year, so Kupon might be misremembering based on the bugged state in DotA 2 for a long time.


HOW DO YOU KNOW ALL OF THIS?! Is your other name by any chance Icefrog?!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 04 2014 01:22 GMT
#15854
As I've said before, there are probably a lot of people on the Playdota Advanced Mechanics forum that have a much better understanding of these things than I do.

I've only ever lurked there and only have a very minimal understanding of JASS code, so most of my knowledge of how most of the skills work is secondhand.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 04 2014 01:25 GMT
#15855
On March 04 2014 10:18 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 09:43 TheYango wrote:
On March 04 2014 08:59 Excludos wrote:
On March 04 2014 08:00 Lavitage2 wrote:
If gyro activates flak cannon then gets doomed do his next few autoattacks still get the big AoE?

No. It removes positive buffs from the target.

On March 04 2014 08:58 Kupon3ss wrote:
yes


Now I'm less sure..

edit: Dota wiki tells us that the passives from gyrocopter's flak cannon and rocket barrage both gets disabled by Doom (as well as LC's ulti)

Correct, though for the record, the Purge portion is not why Flak Cannon is disabled. The base ability for Flak Cannon is actually Chemical Rage, which is not purge-able. It transforms Gyrocopter into a unit with permanent Split Shot and reverts him after the duration or the specified number of attacks. The reason that Doom disables Flak Cannon is because Doom disables Split Shot based passive abilities as well (note how Medusa's Split Shot is disabled even if you toggled it on before you were Doomed).

Also note that this interaction was bugged in DotA 2 till mid last year, so Kupon might be misremembering based on the bugged state in DotA 2 for a long time.


HOW DO YOU KNOW ALL OF THIS?! Is your other name by any chance Icefrog?!

yes
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Tuco
Profile Joined September 2010
China200 Posts
March 04 2014 07:28 GMT
#15856
On March 04 2014 09:30 Baggage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 22:33 Tuco wrote:
Quite a while ago i watched some videos on youtube of an older chinese warcraft 3 dota player playing dota 2 and commenting at the same time. i can't remember his name nor can i find the videos, does anyone know the vids i'm talking about? they were really good.


Was he playing against Demon Stack?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_S9K9D7HCw



That's what i was looking for thanks man! i love that guy
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 07:30:09
March 04 2014 07:30 GMT
#15857
Is solomid Rubick any good? (mainly referring to pubs) I know it used to be done a bit in the past. Any adjustments you would do to your item/skill build from support, or still go for stuff like arcanes, forcestaff etc
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 04 2014 07:33 GMT
#15858
It's somewhat weaker in lane, but it's fine.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 04 2014 07:34 GMT
#15859
well the purpose of mid rubick is to get fast levels and farm
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Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
March 04 2014 07:35 GMT
#15860
^I know, I'm asking how you would then build him differently

Also does AA ult stop sunder?
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