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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 17:27:15
December 24 2013 17:26 GMT
#14541
"Game is safe to leave" means you don't get "abandon" status if you leave the game. You may win the game if you continue and destroy the enemy throne. If you leave, you lose possibly.

If you see "no stats will be recorded", you don't get both "abandon" status and "loss". The game is not considered and measured in any way.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
December 24 2013 20:15 GMT
#14542
Question about ranked matchmaking. Is your initial rating dependent only on the placement games you play, or is it also influenced by all of your past non ranked games?
Dodge arrows
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 24 2013 20:19 GMT
#14543
On December 25 2013 05:15 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Question about ranked matchmaking. Is your initial rating dependent only on the placement games you play, or is it also influenced by all of your past non ranked games?


Yes; the starting value is whatever your non ranked games MMR is.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
December 24 2013 20:51 GMT
#14544
On December 25 2013 01:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 01:34 Jerubaal wrote:
I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding something or it's just the UI, but I am almost certain that I am having games where someone on my team abandons and the game becomes safe to leave and yet the game is counted as a loss. It seems that if anyone stays in the game until the throne is destroyed it counts as a loss no matter how many people have left.


The game being safe to leave and stats not being recorded is not guaranteed just because somebody abandoned. The stats not being recorded only happens if it is stated explicitly because no towers and no kills have happened when the player DCed. The game will count as a win/loss if any one these conditions have already occurred.

and yes if people stay and kill the throne then it should count the win/loss regardless.


I don't know why there is even an abandon system in place then.

We already established in previous arguments that my time is worthless. My stats are worthless apparently, too. It's all worthless.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
December 24 2013 21:01 GMT
#14545
On December 25 2013 05:19 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 05:15 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Question about ranked matchmaking. Is your initial rating dependent only on the placement games you play, or is it also influenced by all of your past non ranked games?


Yes; the starting value is whatever your non ranked games MMR is.

So the 10 placements aren't that significant then?
Dodge arrows
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
December 24 2013 21:10 GMT
#14546
On December 25 2013 06:01 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 05:19 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 25 2013 05:15 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Question about ranked matchmaking. Is your initial rating dependent only on the placement games you play, or is it also influenced by all of your past non ranked games?


Yes; the starting value is whatever your non ranked games MMR is.

So the 10 placements aren't that significant then?

Not really. I went 4-6, and managed to get a 3.8k rating.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 24 2013 21:12 GMT
#14547
Yeah the "no stats recorded" message is bugged atm. I actually got a win the other day because the enemy ignorantly believed the "no stats recorded" notice, apparently not realizing that my friend had abandoned (had to go) after going 2-0, so they all left except 1 or 2 of them, and we had 3 or maybe even 4 people left and won. You just have to be smarter than the system: stats are recorded if game goes over 5 minutes or if there's a first blood or if there's a tower kill. Disregard the message and spam to your team to not leave if it gives a false no-stats-recorded indication.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
December 24 2013 21:24 GMT
#14548
On December 25 2013 06:12 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Yeah the "no stats recorded" message is bugged atm. I actually got a win the other day because the enemy ignorantly believed the "no stats recorded" notice, apparently not realizing that my friend had abandoned (had to go) after going 2-0, so they all left except 1 or 2 of them, and we had 3 or maybe even 4 people left and won. You just have to be smarter than the system: stats are recorded if game goes over 5 minutes or if there's a first blood or if there's a tower kill. Disregard the message and spam to your team to not leave if it gives a false no-stats-recorded indication.


Cheating the system with agressive abandon to lure the ennemy team into abandoning

I must say master strategy right here GJ
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 24 2013 21:50 GMT
#14549
On December 25 2013 06:12 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Yeah the "no stats recorded" message is bugged atm. I actually got a win the other day because the enemy ignorantly believed the "no stats recorded" notice, apparently not realizing that my friend had abandoned (had to go) after going 2-0, so they all left except 1 or 2 of them, and we had 3 or maybe even 4 people left and won. You just have to be smarter than the system: stats are recorded if game goes over 5 minutes or if there's a first blood or if there's a tower kill. Disregard the message and spam to your team to not leave if it gives a false no-stats-recorded indication.


You only get the statless game if a whole team leaves so the game ends. If you stay and finish the game then stats are recorded regardless.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 23:46:26
December 24 2013 23:42 GMT
#14550
Where does this misinformation come from? You don't get stats if you stay in a true statsless game.

It's actually pretty simple, but you need to separate "safe to leave" (ie. you don't get an abandon) from "no stats recorded" (ie. you don't get a win/loss). Those are two different things.

If someone abandons before first blood, first tower and 5:00, the game is both safe to leave and no stats recorded. You will not get a win, a loss or an abandon, no matter what you do.

If someone abandons after first blood, first tower or 5:00, the game is safe to leave but stats will be recorded. You cannot get an abandon for that game, but if your team loses (either by all leaving, or by actually losing), you will get a loss. It is possible to get a win if you stay and win 4v5.

The other case is when your whole team leaves within a short time period. In this case, nobody gets an abandon, not even the first person to leave. You do still get a loss.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 25 2013 00:48 GMT
#14551
Maybe I got baited by a false message as well and it wasn't a no stats game. Just tested it and didn't get any stats recorded.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
December 25 2013 03:26 GMT
#14552
anyone know if the MMR brackets/tiers in ranked are the same as normals? (i.e. do we have a site where we can look up ranked stats sort of like datdota for the proscene?)
umade
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden172 Posts
December 25 2013 13:43 GMT
#14553
Why are my teammates stupid?
Awesomeness
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 25 2013 13:45 GMT
#14554
On December 25 2013 22:43 umade wrote:
Why are my teammates stupid?


Because you are much more perceptive to the mistakes of others than your own
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
December 25 2013 13:57 GMT
#14555
What is the best looking ward around there?
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
December 25 2013 14:55 GMT
#14556
How do I play Lycan effectively after patch? Still jungle?`Lane? What items?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 25 2013 16:45 GMT
#14557
On December 25 2013 22:57 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What is the best looking ward around there?

if you're talking about ward skins, i think the venge and lich wards look really nice
:)
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
December 25 2013 17:03 GMT
#14558
On December 26 2013 01:45 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 22:57 SilverSkyLark wrote:
What is the best looking ward around there?

if you're talking about ward skins, i think the venge and lich wards look really nice

The Venge one looks nice! Time to look for someone to trade with. )
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
December 25 2013 17:53 GMT
#14559
On December 25 2013 06:10 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 06:01 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On December 25 2013 05:19 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 25 2013 05:15 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Question about ranked matchmaking. Is your initial rating dependent only on the placement games you play, or is it also influenced by all of your past non ranked games?


Yes; the starting value is whatever your non ranked games MMR is.

So the 10 placements aren't that significant then?

Not really. I went 4-6, and managed to get a 3.8k rating.

I just got 3750 and I went 2-8 or something.
Dodge arrows
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
December 25 2013 19:17 GMT
#14560
i got 4k plus and i went 2-8 too, so your old rating sure factors in
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