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Eriksen
Micronesia720 Posts
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Eriksen
Micronesia720 Posts
On December 24 2013 14:25 NotYango wrote: There's no way a Huskar is every jumping against a same-level Omni unless your team either decided to freefarm Omni safe lane, or he got inordinately fed for no real reason. Wait, what does every jumping means @_@? | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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Eriksen
Micronesia720 Posts
damn how did I not spot that. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
i see it all the time and i wonder why especially if it is a mid pugna that gets bottle. The reason this feels so odd is because you have +4 int gain that means ~1150 mana on lvl 16 without any items. /E instead of mana boots you could get a casual void stone to build into a hex later, or a point booster if you want to build aghs or get bots so you can tp to fountain if you run out of mana, literally everything seems better but yet players still get this item. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On December 24 2013 17:14 idonthinksobro wrote: is there any reason why players build mana boots on pugna? i see it all the time and i wonder why especially if it is a mid pugna that gets bottle. The reason this feels so odd is because you have +4 int gain that means ~1150 mana on lvl 16 without any items. /E instead of mana boots you could get a casual void stone to build into a hex later, or a point booster if you want to build aghs or get bots so you can tp to fountain if you run out of mana, literally everything seems better but yet players still get this item. Pugna groups wants to group with his mates so mana boots are good, a bigger mana pool is also good. From a strict individual point of view I agree void stone quickly gives more mana regen than mana boots. It the same thing about sobi mask giving him more regen than basilius but he wants to take the ennemy T1 quickly and basilius helps immensely. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
1. Items that counter nature's prophet 2. Heroes that counter nature's prophet 3. Hero combos that counter nature's prophet 4. Playstyles that counter nature's prophet 5. Taunts to use on nature's prophet assuming victory I've decided that if I'm going to meet NP in 10/10 (no joke) of my ranked matches, I might as well hard counter those cheap-ass fuckers and be able to pwn them, followed by some bm for good measure. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8915 Posts
On December 24 2013 20:28 xAdra wrote: Alright, can anyone give me their ideas for: 1. Items that counter nature's prophet 2. Heroes that counter nature's prophet 3. Hero combos that counter nature's prophet 4. Playstyles that counter nature's prophet 5. Taunts to use on nature's prophet assuming victory I've decided that if I'm going to meet NP in 10/10 (no joke) of my ranked matches, I might as well hard counter those cheap-ass fuckers and be able to pwn them, followed by some bm for good measure. if you dont know the answers to any of these questions you shouldnt even be playing ranked...youre just going to get a shit score and rage even more there are no items that specifically counter natures prophet. hex is good against him, but its good against everyone else too. orchid is good against him, its also good on a lot of other heroes. ??? heroes that counter np are varied. storm/sb/doom etc are the kind of heroes that can drop him in a couple of seconds if you find him. heroes like tinker negate furions split pushing aspect not even going to bother answering the other questions. the thing you need to know about dota is there are no hard counters for anything, excluding the skill doom. | ||
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Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
On December 24 2013 20:28 xAdra wrote: Alright, can anyone give me their ideas for: 1. Items that counter nature's prophet 2. Heroes that counter nature's prophet 3. Hero combos that counter nature's prophet 4. Playstyles that counter nature's prophet 5. Taunts to use on nature's prophet assuming victory I've decided that if I'm going to meet NP in 10/10 (no joke) of my ranked matches, I might as well hard counter those cheap-ass fuckers and be able to pwn them, followed by some bm for good measure. Nature's Prophet is squishy and often alone, so I'd try a ganking specialist like Nyx Assassin (invisibility, mana burn and stun), Spirit Breaker (mobility and stun) or Bounty Hunter (invisibility, mini stun and detection). It's important to surprise him before he can teleport or use Shadow Blade, or to have a stun and detection ready when he does. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
Heroes with global abilities, invis, blink, antipush-spells. SB, BH, QOP, KOTL, Timber, Earth Shaker, Tinker, Spectre, Legion Commander, Clockwerk, Nyx, and Puck are some decent examples. Make plant jokes. Kill him with Nyx Assassin and say something like "hahahaha the Emerald Ash Borer strikes againnnnnn" Come up with puns based on his responses: http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Nature's_Prophet_responses. Say something like "I guess your bark was so shaggy that it sloughed off and the subsequent girdling catastrophically damaged your xylem". | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
On December 24 2013 21:19 evilfatsh1t wrote: if you dont know the answers to any of these questions you shouldnt even be playing ranked...youre just going to get a shit score and rage even more there are no items that specifically counter natures prophet. hex is good against him, but its good against everyone else too. orchid is good against him, its also good on a lot of other heroes. ??? heroes that counter np are varied. storm/sb/doom etc are the kind of heroes that can drop him in a couple of seconds if you find him. heroes like tinker negate furions split pushing aspect not even going to bother answering the other questions. the thing you need to know about dota is there are no hard counters for anything, excluding the skill doom. Actually, I do know, this post is more of rage and the only serious questions were 2 and 5. Thanks for answering though. On December 24 2013 21:49 Nightmarjoo wrote: Make plant jokes. Kill him with Nyx Assassin and say something like "hahahaha the Emerald Ash Borer strikes againnnnnn" Come up with puns based on his responses: http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Nature's_Prophet_responses. Say something like "I guess your bark was so shaggy that it sloughed off and the subsequent girdling catastrophically damaged your xylem". Nice, those will be useful. Thanks :D | ||
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RagnaRock
Poland76 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8915 Posts
also sometimes if youre getting a lot of money even as a support, it could be better to skip getting wand and go straight for a big item like blink/force staff/ghost and then come back to finish magic wand. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On December 24 2013 20:28 xAdra wrote: Alright, can anyone give me their ideas for: 1. Items that counter nature's prophet 2. Heroes that counter nature's prophet 3. Hero combos that counter nature's prophet 4. Playstyles that counter nature's prophet 5. Taunts to use on nature's prophet assuming victory I've decided that if I'm going to meet NP in 10/10 (no joke) of my ranked matches, I might as well hard counter those cheap-ass fuckers and be able to pwn them, followed by some bm for good measure. clockwork goblin battery assault - he cant teleport cogs - he cant run away with shadowblade hookshot for if he tries to preemptively escape hard counter imo | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On December 24 2013 20:28 xAdra wrote: Alright, can anyone give me their ideas for: 1. Items that counter nature's prophet 2. Heroes that counter nature's prophet 3. Hero combos that counter nature's prophet 4. Playstyles that counter nature's prophet 5. Taunts to use on nature's prophet assuming victory I've decided that if I'm going to meet NP in 10/10 (no joke) of my ranked matches, I might as well hard counter those cheap-ass fuckers and be able to pwn them, followed by some bm for good measure. 1. Boots of travel. Ghost scepter if he builds right click. Quelling blade or tango early game to nullify sprout. 2. Bounty hunter is really good. Threat of getting ganked limits how much prophet can move around the map, and track puts a lot of pressure on prophet in teamfights (Prophet's stand and fight ability is pretty bad until he gets an item advantage, and track makes it really easy to see and lock him down in fights). Heroes with long range initiation also work. Storm spirit is my favorite, Clockwerk is good too. Tinker deals with his split push really well obviously. With KotL you have the ability to send some1 back to defend NP's splitpush, then port that person to a fight or push with the rest of your team 4. I wouldn't base my playstyle on countering 1 of 5 enemy heroes. In general though, ganking lineups are good vs split pushers. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On December 25 2013 01:34 Jerubaal wrote: I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding something or it's just the UI, but I am almost certain that I am having games where someone on my team abandons and the game becomes safe to leave and yet the game is counted as a loss. It seems that if anyone stays in the game until the throne is destroyed it counts as a loss no matter how many people have left. The game being safe to leave and stats not being recorded is not guaranteed just because somebody abandoned. The stats not being recorded only happens if it is stated explicitly because no towers and no kills have happened when the player DCed. The game will count as a win/loss if any one these conditions have already occurred. and yes if people stay and kill the throne then it should count the win/loss regardless. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On December 25 2013 01:34 Jerubaal wrote: I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding something or it's just the UI, but I am almost certain that I am having games where someone on my team abandons and the game becomes safe to leave and yet the game is counted as a loss. It seems that if anyone stays in the game until the throne is destroyed it counts as a loss no matter how many people have left. "no stats will be recorded" = no win/loss, which only occurs if the abandon happened before 5 minutes game time and no hero or tower kills have occurred. | ||
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