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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
October 04 2013 01:17 GMT
#12641
On October 04 2013 06:49 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 04:06 flamewheel wrote:
Yango is rome and all paths lead towards drums

This analogy is terrible

Be happy that the roads no longer lead to Urn + Aquila.

No it was urn and aquila... Into drum
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Morton
Profile Joined July 2012
United States152 Posts
October 04 2013 03:42 GMT
#12642
Okay so regarding playing tusk. I've been playing him a lot because he is super fun and I have come up with a few rules I use when playing him.

I either go for solo mid, or support sidelane. If mid i rush bottle, then get phase+drums, and if sidelane i get arcane-drums. Then I go into some sort of utility/disable item (i find that building utility keeps you relevant longer). Usually my top choice is halberd, orchid if lots of escapers/team fighters (if I am going to snowball in, i want to silence the nastiest teamfight spell), necrobook if against a team where i think i can get solo pickoffs and when I need pushing power, or scythe if I am rampaging and get one of the above really fast. Bkb seems really wasted because after I have used all my items, I would almost prefer disables to be used on me than on my team, and I usually die to right clicks in teamfights anyway (maelkaward)

I have tried things that i see pro players do in pub/troll games (namely shadow-blade, deso, and shivas) but I have had terrible times with those items, and lothars in particular seems pretty darn useless.

One incredibly powerful lane i found besides centaur tusk is a lifestealer+tusk+ranged support offensive trilane. Snowballing+open wounds+ice shards is nearly a guaranteed kill if the enemy gets anywhere out of tower range, and with any other disable you can easily win tri v tri fights.

also on a gameplay note, i try to avoid snowballing my team in during mid-lategame fights, rather i try to get an angle where i can snowball through the entire enemy team (assuming all 5 are grouped up) and land on a support in the back. Ideally the short stun and the focus put on me allows my team to follow up while I throw out spells/lock down items.

How do you guys usually build tusk, and more importantly, in what situations/play-styles do you think he is strong in the first place?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 04 2013 04:55 GMT
#12643
i do treads urn wand drums (+bottle if mid) -> bkb/halberd/deso/lothars/blink/vlads/pipe/heart/ac/ghost/w.e
he's pretty tanky if you just build str, and his autoattacks put out decent damage as well
he's really good against melee carries and any squishy hero that relies heavily on good positioning (eg lesh, dp, sf, etc)
he's good with heroes that relies heavily on positioning (aka ranged carries)
during teamfights just spam shards until your team has a chance to get a pickoff. try to avoid using snowball to initiate
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
October 04 2013 04:59 GMT
#12644
Do most pro players use legacy keys?
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
October 04 2013 05:27 GMT
#12645
On October 04 2013 13:59 KillAudio wrote:
Do most pro players use legacy keys?

No, i would even say that it is 60-40 in favor of qwer (or other standardized layouts)
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
October 04 2013 08:31 GMT
#12646
Super quick one:
Do targets that take cleave dmg from you on attack count towards lifesteal? Thx
taldarimAltar
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 09:03:38
October 04 2013 09:02 GMT
#12647
On October 04 2013 17:31 McRatyn wrote:
Super quick one:
Do targets that take cleave dmg from you on attack count towards lifesteal? Thx

Nope, additionally cleave disregards armour value and evasion.
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
October 04 2013 09:29 GMT
#12648
Thank you very much, knew that second one ;D
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
October 04 2013 09:47 GMT
#12649
Well guys we can settle the Soul Ring debate, xFreedom just went SR on KotL.
gashad
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden10 Posts
October 04 2013 09:58 GMT
#12650
Why is diffusial such a standard item on mirana[while otherwise being used predominatly on illusion heroes]? she lacks illusion spells and her attack speed is unimpressive for agility heroes
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 04 2013 10:06 GMT
#12651
you can purge dust, purge -> arrow, purge to chase, it gives a bit of mana, etc
it's not really standard, it's pretty good tho
i think i'd consider phase aquila wand (optional drums and/or bottle) yasha the standard but idk mirana has a lot of options
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
October 04 2013 10:12 GMT
#12652
It also seems to me like going Diffusal has sort of overtaken getting Radiance. Woud make sense in this slightly less farming meta, with things happening earlier its teamfight utility looks a lot better.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
October 04 2013 12:41 GMT
#12653
I rarely see diffusal on Mirana so I wouldn't say it's standard. It's certainly not bad though.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 12:43:24
October 04 2013 12:43 GMT
#12654
On October 04 2013 18:02 taldarimAltar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 17:31 McRatyn wrote:
Super quick one:
Do targets that take cleave dmg from you on attack count towards lifesteal? Thx

Nope, additionally cleave disregards armour value and evasion.

DK dragon form cleave exception?(= u get lifesteal)
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 12:49:30
October 04 2013 12:49 GMT
#12655
Ok, one of those patented "I just got destroyed mid and idk if I'm just bad" questions...

Storm vs jug. Should SS win that? Because I sure didn't. In fact, storm vs clock went pretty badly as well...
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8277 Posts
October 04 2013 12:59 GMT
#12656
On October 04 2013 21:49 Belisarius wrote:
Ok, one of those patented "I just got destroyed mid and idk if I'm just bad" questions...

Storm vs jug. Should SS win that? Because I sure didn't. In fact, storm vs clock went pretty badly as well...


Ss vs clock before lvl 6 is kinda painful, yes. You should be able to do decent, but the chance of him just killing you is always there. How you lose vs jugg tho I cant fathom. Maybe theres something wrong with your build?
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 13:23:43
October 04 2013 13:14 GMT
#12657
Jug is more a matter of "I feel I should be killing him/zoning him/whatever and I feel utterly impotent instead."

Lose is relative, I guess. I wouldn't die to him unless I did something dumb, and I did ok by cs etc, but I couldn't man up on him. I did ok early while his damage was low, but after he got bottle crowing and then made phase I felt pretty useless.

If I went past the creepwave to zone him with remnant he'd just bladefury into me for a ton of damage because he's faster, and in the process push the wave into my tower while being totally immune to my abilities. He'd even have a shot at the rune. Harass didn't seem to do much when he had healing ward and bottle crow, and with melee xp and a good number of creeps from bladefury/random walk-ups, I don't feel like I greatly slowed him down.

Am I supposed to be able to kill him through bladefury and healing ward and (potentially) omnislash? Maybe I just need to call the lane a wash and go gank sooner.
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
October 04 2013 13:17 GMT
#12658
On October 04 2013 21:43 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 18:02 taldarimAltar wrote:
On October 04 2013 17:31 McRatyn wrote:
Super quick one:
Do targets that take cleave dmg from you on attack count towards lifesteal? Thx

Nope, additionally cleave disregards armour value and evasion.

DK dragon form cleave exception?(= u get lifesteal)

No
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 13:59:00
October 04 2013 13:42 GMT
#12659
Satanic was bugged on DK so u could aoe lifesteal when active on, that's it =O
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 14:32:05
October 04 2013 14:23 GMT
#12660
Does echo stomp knockout duration break when you attack with illusions from dark seer wall? (does it count as hero dmg?)
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