bone's lows were so low that ppl forget that he wasn't that bad. I mean ppl still think that moon is really good offlaner so I guess memory is a strange thing

goody153

44225 Posts

May 08 2017 13:32 GMT

#186

On May 08 2017 22:02 Alpino wrote:

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bone's lows were so low that ppl forget that he wasn't that bad. I mean ppl still think that moon is really good offlaner so I guess memory is a strange thing

Moon was good during some parts of playing with DC and also a good part playing with OG but yeah the rest of the teams he was pretty whatever

Oh yeah bone's worst performance was just absolutely shit tier

goody153

44225 Posts

May 08 2017 21:57 GMT

#187

alright based on the 4 games they really looked like old C9 with the economical way of playing(envy leaving safelane as soon as he can jungle for whoever support want to farm .. aui camping bottom lane as soon as he could and ending up like almost highest networth .. everybody farming most of the time)

all games stomps (ok maybe not completely game 1 against coL) though it's still not a great gauge since it's not against t1 teams but they looked really good for a new team .. they still need to work with team spellcasting coordination

FuzzyJAM

Scotland9300 Posts

May 08 2017 22:14 GMT

#188

Yeah, four dominant performances but the competition has been lacking.

Aui wants to play hyper greedy support again which is interesting. It obviously works against mediocre teams but whether top ones wouldn't just crush it idk. Of course, maybe they'd play differently against better teams.

babysimba

10466 Posts

May 08 2017 22:27 GMT

#189

It works when you have Fata.

babysimba

10466 Posts

May 09 2017 00:51 GMT

#190

Hope the same old shit doesn't happen. For the past few years, EE drafting like Wings during low stakes games and then pussies out and draft like a stubborn retard during LANs.

spudde123

4814 Posts

May 09 2017 02:18 GMT

#191

I see we already had Fata Zeus. Time to watch some vods.

Alpino

Brazil4390 Posts

May 09 2017 02:52 GMT

#192

Gonna say that these first few performances while yeah they weren't against the toughest of competitions showed a coherent team. Few teams are that coherent right out of the gate and ok they had the previous NP base and the previous c9 base so it makes sense that they are coherent from a communication and playstyle point of view but what impressed me is how they drafted with a purpose in this new meta. Seems like they're really trying to play in a way that fits their playstyle as individual players instead of blindly following the meta so if they can make this style of DotA they're trying to pull off work against good teams they'll have a reaaally good range of picks to choose from and they'll truly be a force to be reckoned with.

goody153

44225 Posts

May 09 2017 06:45 GMT

#193

They've already showcased facing none of the TI quality teams that they could beat them easily(all games have been stomp so far) so i wish the team would have a serious match soon

5/6 games they dove t3's without t3/t2 dropping lol

spudde123

4814 Posts

May 09 2017 07:37 GMT

#194

Well these NA quals aren't so easy towards the end I think. All of them have just one spot and there's TB, DC (in Summit quals), isGG, coL and all the South American teams. Though TB, DC and coL seem to have started out a bit rocky in the quals but they may improve. If none of the NA teams outside of EG manage to clinch a TI invite in the upcoming LANs, hopefully TI will at least have wildcards so 2 of the teams can try play themselves in. If the TI quals again have just one NA spot (with TB in quals this time) and no wildcard it's a bit lame.

But yea their picks have been pretty fun this far. Feels like their options are far more open in the draft with these players. Fata can play all sorts of mids, but especially they can now pick spellcasting mids better than they could with EE mid. And also Fata should be a bit stronger in lane so they may be able to snowball some games better through that. Fata being mid makes more aggressive support duos easier to pick too. They also have now a bigger threat of some unique picks like Visage, Ench, Chen with Aui on the support. And finally they have a lot of experience playing with Wisp on this team now.

goody153

44225 Posts

May 09 2017 08:23 GMT

#195

Ugh EU getting most slots again but completely bombing out of TI again.

Fata is definitely the better player than EE playing spellcaster mid though the good thing about this is that NP also has an option to put EE on farming mids.

spudde123

4814 Posts

May 09 2017 08:26 GMT

#196

Yea I'd imagine they do that if they ever pick something like Medusa, Naga or TB and decide that it fits better mid in the game.

But we'll have to see whether they can get through these quals first and then how it goes on LAN. It's looking promising so far but always hard to really say before they face better competition.

goody153

44225 Posts

May 09 2017 08:34 GMT

#197

They certainly have the synergy, draft ideas and individual skills to back up their potential as we've seen the past 6 games (it felt like they've been playing months together and they've been wrecking faces ) but we'll see how they adapt and how much mental fortitude they have as a team when the losses started rolling(eventually they'll lose to somebody like everybody else) and meta problems start happening.

In the end it's all about figuring out shit and how strong they're mentally like that's what separates current OG over everybody.

FuzzyJAM

Scotland9300 Posts

May 09 2017 22:28 GMT

#198

Early days, but looks like NP should beat SG 2-1, with SG being a team you have to respect right now.

Still doesn't say much - seems like server made a big difference. I guess NP looked stronger on their server than the reverse, and obviously PLD and Fata have a bigger disadvantage than anyone else. Still not sure how confident I should be with NP.C9 though. The Fata version started really strong last time as well. The mentality of the team is the real question, and I don't know how much that has improved. MSS is a strong player now, but he has a history as a choker.

Please just win TI.