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h1lbert
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Titusmaster6
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goody153
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Nomzter
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rabidch
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
I think they should keep black as well. He's got a lot of growth. If they get someone who is already accomplished there's way less drive to succeed. EG won the tournament mostly on draft rather than gameplay, if you seen a good VG team fight you will see how much they trust each other and their coordination is stunning. Kicking black and getting some other guy will change the chemistry. | ||
molecu
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Churrass
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Ultimo Hombre
Australia1436 Posts
On February 09 2015 19:25 molecu wrote: So what happens to China now? everyone will shuffle | ||
Invoker
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On February 09 2015 19:19 evanthebouncy! wrote: fy says they're keeping black. I think they should keep black as well. He's got a lot of growth. If they get someone who is already accomplished there's way less drive to succeed. EG won the tournament mostly on draft rather than gameplay, if you seen a good VG team fight you will see how much they trust each other and their coordination is stunning. Kicking black and getting some other guy will change the chemistry. they should keep black, but i dont think they will. it doesnt matter what they say in an interview. but i think its the end of super's time as a not-burden. VG should really try to replace their mid player with somebody better... | ||
RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
Super is inconsistent, Black had communication issues and fy isnt the best drafter and is pretty much known for going for smoke gank early. Ah I'm just frustrated that I rushed home only see VG get destroyed. The lack of a good jungler support is punishing them too hard. Vici is a mometum based team who thrill on out playing in team fight. 2nd place isnt too bad at the end of the day. | ||
Ultimo Hombre
Australia1436 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:06 RiZu wrote: As a diehard iceiceice, man i don't understand how his team always choke at the biggest event because of SEA dota, its the same with Mushi | ||
DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
Also as I have said many times, Black should stay. He didn't do badly. If someone should leave, it is Super. | ||
ShootAnonymous
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On February 09 2015 20:08 Ultimo Hombre wrote: because of SEA dota, its the same with Mushi It might be an SEA thing in general. I despair whenever I watch my preferred SG/SEA League teams failing to perform in finals. Goddammit stop choking please. T_T Personal opinion: VG won't change rosters. They're (surprisingly) under less pressure from the CN community I feel. Regardless of the outcomes of their matches they rarely/seldom break/flood SGamer the way other teams like ex-DK, Newbee, iG do/did. (don't judge me >.< SGamer is my guilty pleasure; some of the users there can be pretty amusing/creative with the way they flame players >_>) So there's less outside impetus. On the flip side one can argue that since 3/5 of the players have reached 2nd and 1/5 has reached 3rd at The International before, they might have a nothing-less-than-perfect mentality and hence kick Black^. There's also an undeniable uncurrent of tension in the team (I've watched pretty much all the VG interviews, be they CN/EN, individual/team). And honestly? I seldom find Black^ impressive/outstanding. BUT! looking at the options currently open to VG: 1) They won't want to pick up a pubstar, I feel. CN carry-position pubstars haven't been very successful >_> Plus it's a little late to start grooming someone into a TI-level player. (yes yes something-something-Sumail-something-Artzeey-something but I'm someone more moved by legacy than by little-proven talent/potential) 2) BurNIng is going to iG, Luo even if he were to leave iG is not an upgrade over Black^. 3) Personally I like Sylar, but he's left VG; who knows how re-intergrating him back into VG will turn out. 4) Hao is not a good pick up in his current performance-level either. 5) ZSMJ... I haven't watched HGT's games closely actually, maybe someone can give an assessment. Did I miss anyone? So yes, in Black^ I do not trust, but he's the most practical/beneficial hard carry player available to VG right now. If I were feeling mean I'd say he's the best of a bad lot, but he's not even bad. Just not flashy. And that's honestly got to do with the way VG picks/plays and that's okay. I believe VG as a team understands that, even if their competitiveness means that they're (rightfully) unhappy/unsatisfied. | ||
evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On February 09 2015 20:06 RiZu wrote: As a diehard iceiceice, man i don't understand how his team always choke at the biggest event . Super is inconsistent, Black had communication issues and fy isnt the best drafter and is pretty much known for going for smoke gank early. Ah I'm just frustrated that I rushed home only see VG get destroyed. The lack of a good jungler support is punishing them too hard. Vici is a mometum based team who thrill on out playing in team fight. 2nd place isnt too bad at the end of the day. I pretty much agree with everything you said... I really want VG win as well, they're the best team to watch, the stuff they can pull is stunning. | ||
evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On February 09 2015 21:33 ShootAnonymous wrote: It might be an SEA thing in general. I despair whenever I watch my preferred SG/SEA League teams failing to perform in finals. Goddammit stop choking please. T_T Personal opinion: VG won't change rosters. They're (surprisingly) under less pressure from the CN community I feel. Regardless of the outcomes of their matches they rarely/seldom break/flood SGamer the way other teams like ex-DK, Newbee, iG do/did. (don't judge me >.< SGamer is my guilty pleasure; some of the users there can be pretty amusing/creative with the way they flame players >_>) So there's less outside impetus. On the flip side one can argue that since 3/5 of the players have reached 2nd and 1/5 has reached 3rd at The International before, they might have a nothing-less-than-perfect mentality and hence kick Black^. There's also an undeniable uncurrent of tension in the team (I've watched pretty much all the VG interviews, be they CN/EN, individual/team). And honestly? I seldom find Black^ impressive/outstanding. BUT! looking at the options currently open to VG: 1) They won't want to pick up a pubstar, I feel. CN carry-position pubstars haven't been very successful >_> 2) BurNIng is going to iG, Luo even if he were to leave iG is not an upgrade over Black^. 3) Personally I like Sylar, but he's left VG; who knows how re-intergrating him back into VG will turn out. 4) Hao is not a good pick up in his current performance-level either. 5) ZSMJ... I haven't watched HGT's games closely actually, maybe someone can give an assessment. Did I miss anyone? So yes, in Black^ I do not trust, but he's the most practical/beneficial hard carry player available to VG right now. If I were feeling mean I'd say he's the best of a bad lot, but he's not even bad. Just not flashy. And that's honestly got to do with the way VG picks/plays and that's okay. I believe VG as a team understands that, even if their competitiveness means that they're (rightfully) unhappy/unsatisfied. Black^ has shown the potential to grow and probably have the best drive out of all the available people. Just for that I think they should keep him, because he has still yet to reach his potentials. If they replace black they won't pick up a carry, the rumor atm is Lanm to support and FY to carry. | ||
ShootAnonymous
1948 Posts
On February 09 2015 21:39 evanthebouncy! wrote: Black^ has shown the potential to grow and probably have the best drive out of all the available people. Just for that I think they should keep him, because he has still yet to reach his potentials. If they replace black they won't pick up a carry, the rumor atm is Lanm to support and FY to carry. RIP my almost-favourite support duo if that happens ): But I guess I could get behind this. It makes sense if VG feels that their lack of a jungler will be a big issue come TI. LaNm's draftings were generally the best that came out of DK too, so I guess his experience in that aspect might be an added bonus to the team. (though this whole unretiring business is making me side-eye the heck out of ex-DK members. y u break my dream team like that if you were all gonna come back less than a year later =_= grrr.) | ||
meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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shad2810
Malaysia2682 Posts
On February 09 2015 21:39 evanthebouncy! wrote: Black^ has shown the potential to grow and probably have the best drive out of all the available people. Just for that I think they should keep him, because he has still yet to reach his potentials. If they replace black they won't pick up a carry, the rumor atm is Lanm to support and FY to carry. I personally do not hope this to be true. My favorite support duo would be broken ![]() ![]() | ||
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