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Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
June 09 2014 08:57 GMT
#121
Puppey looked very lost for the majority of this tournament. Dendi is looking better than he ever did going back to TI3 at least imo, Funn1k and Kuro are playing great as well as long as they're not stuck playing something weird, XBOCT isn't XBOCT'ing too much; however Puppey looked genuinely concerning both in terms of drafting and actual in-game performance imo. Some of their drafts were just not good, some other times the drafts were decent however completely not suited to Na'Vis individual strengths and either the gameplan wasn't there to go with the draft, or Na'Vi failed at executing the same plan because it's far out of their comfort style. And like, those Leshrac stuns.. ugh.

Looking at the games during this tournament, combined with Dendi's comments during the DK/EG cast, it really does look like Puppey's drafts are too disconnected from the series the team is playing and he is trying too hard to outdraft his opponents without considering his teammates' strengths and weaknesses. Also Na'Vi as a whole need to buckle down and start playing heroes that make them a stronger team rather than heroes they think are 'fun' or whatever. Their ceiling is indeed 'absurdly high', but it's going to take a lot of #hardwork and #dedication for them to actually reach it consistently.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
June 09 2014 09:27 GMT
#122
I know Dendi's been consistently playing a lot of Dota (at least he streamed a bunch these past few months) but the team hasn't played much together. Other than Dendi streaming a bunch, I don't know the practice habits of the others except that Funn1k streams a bit as well. XBOCT used to stream but I haven't seen him in a while. Puppey and Kuro were at GD Studio and I've haven't seen them stream. Of course steams are only a portion of one's practicing, but that's my two cents.

I also think Puppey is conforming more to the patch notes than what the players at Na'Vi are best at (pretty much just agreeing with what is being said everywhere), and I guess this is most due to the fact that they haven't practiced and played much recently. Hopefully during their next few boot camps, they all play the crap out of this patch and they find their style that fits this patch the best.
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ChicagoTed
Profile Joined May 2014
22 Posts
June 10 2014 18:35 GMT
#123
To be honest they are playing terrible, Dendi is not on good form and PPY is like not enjoyin the game anymore, they are just playin for the TI4 money.
Save a Life, Buy a Ward.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
June 10 2014 20:07 GMT
#124
On June 11 2014 03:35 ChicagoTed wrote:
To be honest they are playing terrible, Dendi is not on good form and PPY is like not enjoyin the game anymore, they are just playin for the TI4 money.


What else did you see in your crystal ball?
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Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
June 11 2014 00:44 GMT
#125
Dendi not on good form.

What games were you watching.
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
June 11 2014 06:02 GMT
#126
On June 11 2014 09:44 Bigtony wrote:
Dendi not on good form.

What games were you watching.

Well he looked good on tinker? haha i think of the 5 he's at least playing the best... but yeah this team gets dendi his good footing by constantly threatening the mid with the supports, but since the team hasn't been practicing, everything from rotation to decisionmaking has been terribly off.
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V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
June 11 2014 06:18 GMT
#127
No wards, not protecting hvost enough, bad support rotations, bad draft. Puppey and Kuro need to step up, especially Puppey.
Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
June 11 2014 09:07 GMT
#128
I would like to see them use wards more proactively and creatively, I think it will really help out their game. these guys need to bootcamp hard, I believe in them though!
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ChicagoTed
Profile Joined May 2014
22 Posts
June 11 2014 12:38 GMT
#129
On June 11 2014 05:07 Steveling wrote:
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On June 11 2014 03:35 ChicagoTed wrote:
To be honest they are playing terrible, Dendi is not on good form and PPY is like not enjoyin the game anymore, they are just playin for the TI4 money.


What else did you see in your crystal ball?


Did i say something wrong? Just look at the Summit, PPY is like "I dont care if we lose anymore, this is not ti"

And please dont draft Invoker for Dendi again, just dont do it.
Save a Life, Buy a Ward.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
June 11 2014 12:59 GMT
#130
On June 11 2014 21:38 ChicagoTed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 05:07 Steveling wrote:
On June 11 2014 03:35 ChicagoTed wrote:
To be honest they are playing terrible, Dendi is not on good form and PPY is like not enjoyin the game anymore, they are just playin for the TI4 money.


What else did you see in your crystal ball?


And please dont draft Invoker for Dendi again, just dont do it.


Huh? Dendi's invoker carried them so hard in game 3 vs NAR.
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ChicagoTed
Profile Joined May 2014
22 Posts
June 11 2014 14:17 GMT
#131
On June 11 2014 21:59 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 21:38 ChicagoTed wrote:
On June 11 2014 05:07 Steveling wrote:
On June 11 2014 03:35 ChicagoTed wrote:
To be honest they are playing terrible, Dendi is not on good form and PPY is like not enjoyin the game anymore, they are just playin for the TI4 money.


What else did you see in your crystal ball?


And please dont draft Invoker for Dendi again, just dont do it.


Huh? Dendi's invoker carried them so hard in game 3 vs NAR.


Just in one game, in the others game he got rekt! specially against VG.
Save a Life, Buy a Ward.
MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
June 11 2014 15:00 GMT
#132
Dendi's Invoker is actually good. They got destroyed because the whole team is not playing well lately, not because Dendi is bad with that hero.
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
June 11 2014 17:51 GMT
#133
On June 12 2014 00:00 MyrMindservant wrote:
Dendi's Invoker is actually good. They got destroyed because the whole team is not playing well lately, not because Dendi is bad with that hero.

Dendi is such a great mid because usually his team gives him an early advantage which he never gives up throughout the rest of the game. With the supports roaming mindlessly, they actually put him in a worse situation and so he has his work cut out for him
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NickEZ
Profile Joined April 2013
41 Posts
June 11 2014 18:28 GMT
#134
Relax, they haven't practiced since TI3... they are just enjoying life.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
June 20 2014 00:24 GMT
#135
Welp, they are officially boot camping. So... that's a good thing.
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
June 21 2014 00:09 GMT
#136
On June 20 2014 09:24 Seraphic wrote:
Welp, they are officially boot camping. So... that's a good thing.

Yeah. The game against Fnatic was not that good tho.
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zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
June 21 2014 16:35 GMT
#137
The worst part is that Na'Vi is the Real Madrid of Dota2. They can be the absolute best the game has to offer and then play so incredibly bad for some time. Yet they keep showing glimpses of their class so that you are even more disappointed by their following losses.

G2 against Fnatic was amazing, they won against their tinker/beastmaster combo which is incredible in itself already. Consistency, though.. is not their strength and they then lost G3.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 22 2014 21:41 GMT
#138
http://read.navi-gaming.com/en/blogs/Na`Vi.Razzoc/navidota_2_managers_blog_2

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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
June 23 2014 04:48 GMT
#139
That's a nice setup. See you on the weekend!
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 05:14:25
June 23 2014 05:13 GMT
#140
The saddest thing about Na'vi is they have these flashes of great play like Game 2 vs. Rox and their group stage game vs. EG at The Summit, but are just so wildly inconsistent
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