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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
June 24 2014 20:38 GMT
#161
You cant expect them to be god tier overnight, they showed MUCH better games yesterday and today, yes they lost 3-0 they didnt looked nearly as cluesless as they did a month ago, when every lost was a big WTF

So far so good, expecting them to keep learning from this and keep on training

gogogogo NaVi
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
June 24 2014 20:59 GMT
#162
Also I think EG is the best team in the West, although it'll become a lot more clear after ESL ONE.
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
June 24 2014 22:10 GMT
#163
On June 25 2014 05:38 Faruko wrote:
You cant expect them to be god tier overnight, they showed MUCH better games yesterday and today, yes they lost 3-0 they didnt looked nearly as cluesless as they did a month ago, when every lost was a big WTF

So far so good, expecting them to keep learning from this and keep on training

gogogogo NaVi

I guess you're right. Hope they continue to improve!
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fzeroonline
Profile Joined December 2012
89 Posts
June 24 2014 23:51 GMT
#164
XBOCT is far and away the weak link right now. When NaVi is on, XBOCT is on. They need him to step up to his potential if they want to win TI.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
June 25 2014 08:02 GMT
#165
The D2L games displayed some progress, it will be interesting to see how they perform at the next event. They looked a little unfamiliar with EG's style of play though. That lead to some costly overextensions. XBOCT getting caught out on doom in game three assuming there would be no warding comes to mind.
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EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
June 26 2014 10:09 GMT
#166
NaVi vs Empire in 6 hours. Hoping they win in style after the 0-3 loss to EG.
Go NaVi Go!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 26 2014 11:26 GMT
#167
On June 26 2014 19:09 EnSky wrote:
NaVi vs Empire in 6 hours. Hoping they win in style after the 0-3 loss to EG.
Go NaVi Go!

Wrong NaVi! :p
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
June 26 2014 18:12 GMT
#168
On June 26 2014 19:09 EnSky wrote:
NaVi vs Empire in 6 hours. Hoping they win in style after the 0-3 loss to EG.
Go NaVi Go!

Its Na'rVi
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
June 26 2014 19:40 GMT
#169
On June 26 2014 19:09 EnSky wrote:
NaVi vs Empire in 6 hours. Hoping they win in style after the 0-3 loss to EG.
Go NaVi Go!

They also lost 0-3. How were the games? At this point I'm not giving much hope for Nar'Vi at TI
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 27 2014 15:06 GMT
#170
http://www.eslgaming.com/interview/dendi-reveals-secret-his-success-practice-practice-practice

interview
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
June 27 2014 17:34 GMT
#171
On June 27 2014 04:40 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 19:09 EnSky wrote:
NaVi vs Empire in 6 hours. Hoping they win in style after the 0-3 loss to EG.
Go NaVi Go!

They also lost 0-3. How were the games? At this point I'm not giving much hope for Nar'Vi at TI


They were close (as mentioned above). Make sure to watch out for Navi in ESL, they played very well in D2CL. Hvost needs to pick it up a bit, and the rest of the team is pretty good. Once Hvost picks it up, they should be a Top 3 Western team, very tied with the rest of the best, and then they need to grind those hours and all just improve a bit, and they should be in good shape for TI4 if all goes smoothly.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
June 27 2014 17:34 GMT
#172
Thanks for the link opterown, very good interview, Dendi likeable as always.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Mutineer
Profile Joined March 2013
New Zealand179 Posts
June 29 2014 09:50 GMT
#173
ESL Navi look completely clueless.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 29 2014 11:20 GMT
#174
On June 29 2014 18:50 Mutineer wrote:
ESL Navi look completely clueless.


Not really
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
June 29 2014 11:27 GMT
#175
Saw the end of game 1. I'd have to say that if they didn't have the massive deficit, they would have won. Nonetheless, 2 more weeks. Then we'll see.
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Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 12:31:33
June 29 2014 12:30 GMT
#176
I think they just need to actually research on their opponents, EG is known as of now for their strong Enigma/Tidehunter and none of those was banned by Na´Vi.

On the other hand the metagame, patch by patch, is changing a lot so maybe practicing other heroes will help them, and by practice I mean at Kky's Rubik level, so not practice but crack the hero.

I feel like they are so weak on some heroes, Funnik on Nature's Prophet is ok but not to the point where he attracts that much attention, like AdmiralBulldog.

I don't know, lately every match I watch is like "Who is using which hero?", more like you don't really feel like they will pull they weight.
Their picks are not inspiring any fear at all. Seems like they always "try" to counterpick instead of force the opponents into something uncomfortable.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
June 29 2014 21:47 GMT
#177
On June 29 2014 21:30 Racket wrote:
I think they just need to actually research on their opponents, EG is known as of now for their strong Enigma/Tidehunter and none of those was banned by Na´Vi.

On the other hand the metagame, patch by patch, is changing a lot so maybe practicing other heroes will help them, and by practice I mean at Kky's Rubik level, so not practice but crack the hero.

I feel like they are so weak on some heroes, Funnik on Nature's Prophet is ok but not to the point where he attracts that much attention, like AdmiralBulldog.

I don't know, lately every match I watch is like "Who is using which hero?", more like you don't really feel like they will pull they weight.
Their picks are not inspiring any fear at all. Seems like they always "try" to counterpick instead of force the opponents into something uncomfortable.

Agreed. Mechanics wise I think they're okay save a few very questionable plays. Otherwise, as you said. More research and more practice with the current meta.
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EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
June 30 2014 01:03 GMT
#178
Not again!
NaVi was okay in the early to mid part of game 2 but was very volatile in the late game. And one thing I also noticed was than Dendi was mediocre in those games. Don't get me wrong. Dendi is still good but it's just that I feel like something is off. I hope they sort things out before TI4.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 01:17:04
June 30 2014 01:16 GMT
#179
Feels no longer like the same navi that focussed on their trademark aggressive style. They seem to be playing catch up, rather than dictate the game. Their drafts are so not navi-like. I still believe in them though.

Also no more necro void. Why did he even think it was a good idea.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
June 30 2014 07:05 GMT
#180
I think Na'Vi need to up their aggression even more. It often rewards them, as opposed to the defensive style they've run a couple of times (where they just get out-greeded or get caught out of position lategame). They're probably the only team save NB and IG who get better and better the more they overextend.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
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