On March 20 2018 22:22 Faruko wrote:
Reso in, farming mid, Dendi 4th as playmaker, roaming, and Lebron out.

That would be my idea of Navi if they get Reso

This idea is still missing a pos 5 captain, and it's basically what Na'Vi are missing since Puppey left. Artstyle was a fine captain but too much limited as player.

Faruko

Chile34172 Posts

March 20 2018 14:29 GMT

#4962

Wasn't lil captain for quite a long time? he could work that way

_Elendil

Italy192 Posts

March 20 2018 19:48 GMT

#4963

On March 20 2018 23:29 Faruko wrote:
Wasn't lil captain for quite a long time? he could work that way

Apparently not.
And still, Lil is not a pos5.

Faruko

Chile34172 Posts

March 21 2018 17:48 GMT

#4964

On March 21 2018 04:48 _Elendil wrote:

Show nested quote +

Apparently not.
And still, Lil is not a pos5.

maybe, but lebron is terrible

_Elendil

Italy192 Posts

March 22 2018 00:57 GMT

#4965

On March 22 2018 02:48 Faruko wrote:
maybe, but lebron is terrible

I agree.

DucK-

Singapore11447 Posts

March 22 2018 02:11 GMT

#4966

He was good when he stood in though. But now he looks scared whenever he plays.

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

March 22 2018 03:38 GMT

#4967

Because he and Lil do not mesh and read the same situation differently. When your 4 and 5 are out of sync, it's so problematic to control the mid game.

joe_ringmaster

Austria44 Posts

March 22 2018 09:15 GMT

#4968

On March 22 2018 12:38 Judicator wrote:
Because he and Lil do not mesh and read the same situation differently. When your 4 and 5 are out of sync, it's so problematic to control the mid game.

I totally agree. But give the guys some time. Of couse it's great if everything works out from day one, but mostly teams have to develop.

Faruko

Chile34172 Posts

March 22 2018 15:11 GMT

#4969

The problem is that Lebron just doesn't fit in their line up (besides being straight up bad), crystallize as good as he is, he needs supports that are agressive and Lebron is not one of those.

Also this loss vs this Tier25 team, if they dont see something is wrong and need to replace lebron i lost all hope for navi to be a decent team once again, it's right in front of them

I mean, i'm not really mad at they being bad, they had a pretty big shake up, so maybe this is the best they could do, but what i hope is that they see there's an incredible player out there without a team which could boost this team quite a bit, that also speaks russian, up for grab so they make the proper changes

Racket

3023 Posts

March 22 2018 15:27 GMT

#4970

On March 23 2018 00:11 Faruko wrote:
The problem is that Lebron just doesn't fit in their line up (besides being straight up bad), crystallize as good as he is, he needs supports that are agressive and Lebron is not one of those.

Also this loss vs this Tier25 team, if they dont see something is wrong and need to replace lebron i lost all hope for navi to be a decent team once again, it's right in front of them

I mean, i'm not really mad at they being bad, they had a pretty big shake up, so maybe this is the best they could do, but what i hope is that they see there's an incredible player out there without a team which could boost this team quite a bit, that also speaks russian, up for grab so they make the proper changes

Info at 12min mark:

I don't think they mean roster changes but the team dynamic maybe.

_Elendil

Italy192 Posts

March 22 2018 18:10 GMT

#4971

I'm pretty sure Lebron is temporary because they had problems finding someone in a few days.
Problem is there aren't many alternatives in CIS.

RubickPicker

United States332 Posts

March 22 2018 23:09 GMT

#4972

Didn't watch the last series but everything I've seen lately seems like flaws in General's style of play. Of course the offlaner seems to get a lot of blame when teams are doing badly in Dota, but the guy was more successful when he had a support that made big plays and now he seems to be trying to go balls-out and dying.

Rodjer on VP does not seem to make the same impact he did on Navi, because he isn't trying to keep up with someone so aggressive.

Faruko

Chile34172 Posts

March 23 2018 11:35 GMT

#4973

I mean, General and Crystallize both need aggressive supports, even if they dont do that much is just for the fact "they are there".

Lebron does not do that, and that's the biggest problem IMO

Faruko

Chile34172 Posts

March 23 2018 11:53 GMT

#4974

I think this NaVi is worse than PSM NaVi, no joke

I mean, they lost to Spectre, Warlock and Treant

FekY

Serbia55 Posts

March 23 2018 12:11 GMT

#4975

I cant watch this anymore. They are completely clueless.... i have never seen NaVi so bad, worse than post TI5 NaVi

its_a_me

Austria612 Posts

March 23 2018 12:14 GMT

#4976

Sonneiko died for saying the truth about Navi.

midou

Bulgaria1168 Posts

March 23 2018 12:15 GMT

#4977

This team is triggering me so hard atm, with their total incompetence. More so the management than the players are at fault. Do they not realize how clueless they are in the macro/late game??? Who is this dota manager "Caff" and wtf is he thinking? Their hard though recruitment process came up with Pajkatt, rmn-, Biver, Lebron, Ax-Mo, PSM ...

As nice and marketable Dendi is his drafting and shot calling has proved time and time again to be sub par. Same goes for "shared leadership" crap. LH and denies for the first 10 minutes do not make a good carry!
Lil was kicked for the exact same reason - no clue on rotations at the highest level.

Na'Vi are supposed to net $1 000 000 from S1mple, just go all out and get a decent captain like Saksa for example.

Faruko

Chile34172 Posts

March 23 2018 12:23 GMT

#4978

I think the management is at fault, is not like there are not options out there (Kyle from Col is without a team, maybe not the best player but a pretty good captain + Resolut1on)

if they want a captain from CIS... i dont know who is there

i still think resolut1on, crystallize, general, dendi, lil could work OK but they gotta go for it, like i said, i'm not really that mad at they being mad considering what just happened with all the shake ups and what they could get, but they have to build for the future

its_a_me

Austria612 Posts

March 23 2018 12:32 GMT

#4979

LIL is way to greedy for a pos5 and dendi cant even create space as a heavy farmed pos 2 how should he manage as Pos4?

Faruko

Chile34172 Posts

March 23 2018 12:34 GMT

#4980

I mean, i doubt they would kick dendi unless they get a top pos5, if they are not going to find a top pos5, why would they kick dendi if he could (possibly) do the same job.

If they could find a top tier pos5, ok, let's swap dendi, but i dont see anyone out there overall