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its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-13 17:17:00
February 13 2018 17:16 GMT
#4921
On February 13 2018 20:21 Racket wrote:
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On February 13 2018 20:10 DucK- wrote:
Had high hopes and now they're leaderless again. Lack of leadership and not skill is what's stopping navi from progressing. They should start trusting either lil or lebron for the role because dendi has proven to be a failure in it

I missed the games against Effect and it doesn't seem like an outdraft. How did they play?


some individual great stuff, but all in all, mindless and clueless.
They got destroyed hard in game 2

Pretty much like pre rodjer, sonneiko captain and crystalize
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-13 22:30:47
February 13 2018 22:28 GMT
#4922
On February 14 2018 00:37 _Elendil wrote:
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On February 13 2018 23:10 Racket wrote:
You might be pissed but we have been asking for the longest time for ArtStyle to come back. If you actually read the thread from time to time you cannot have missed it.


I'm pissed about your idiot answers, not about Na'Vi.
If you don't understand and answer random unnecessary fanboy defenses, I get pissed.
I was asking infos about who's going to captain in currently Na'Vi squad, and you keep answering I should not talk because Na'Vi sucked since a longtime.

Like if I ask infos about how to go to New York and you answer me not to be pissed that the train is late.

NaVi's captain is Lil. He said it himself. If you care enough to read anything about NaVi you would know it. You started this crap saying NaVi's problem remains the same. You knew NaVi doesn't not have a "real" captain and will have to find one between its five members. Period. You didn't leave any space to talk about it. You took Bismarcks and RubickPirckers answers really wrong because you are pissed about NaVi since forever and not because of any answer here. You are easy to track as you are the only one in this thread with this attitude. If I said "just chill" is because you are pissed 80% of the time.

Now, let me answer your silly rethorical questions:
Na'Vi are playing in DAC qualifiers and Dendi is the drafter. So Na'Vi problem remains the same? Not having a good captain?

Dendi isn't THE drafter but he said he will be actively involved in that task. Yes, the problem remains the same.

Who's Na'Vi captain?
I think that Dendi drafting means they haven't a full role captain. And this is the problem since ages.
Do you agree about what I think or you think they have a captain? Who is the captain? He is adequate?

Or really all you can talk about is empy discussions like this and like the one about grammar?

Lil is NaVi's captain.
Like Bismarck said, having a drafter that is not the captain does not mean they don't have a captain, just like with VP, so no, I don't agree with you, I don't think not having a full role captain is THE problem or A problem. The captain is Lil, he said it himself. How the fuck would we know if he is adequate? He was never captain before.

------

Why do I say your questions are rethorical? Because you know Dendi is the drafter and you know NaVi has no real captain, thus, NaVi's problem remains the same, nothing to talk or discuss about. Now next time open google or reddit and look for some easy answers instead of spewing all this crap here. Try to be constructive for once.

Also, I am not a fanboy and I am not defending them. I just don't expect anything of a team that changed two players, one forced and the other to change the atmosphere one week before the final roster lock.
If you can't get the meaning of the posts here, you should try harder.
_Elendil
Profile Joined July 2016
Italy192 Posts
February 14 2018 11:29 GMT
#4923
On February 14 2018 07:28 Racket wrote:
NaVi's captain is Lil. He said it himself.


Then you could answer like that ten posts ago. Pathetic.

BTW, the team seems clueless right now, and the calls are awful. I hope Lil will improve.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
February 14 2018 11:39 GMT
#4924
On February 14 2018 20:29 _Elendil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2018 07:28 Racket wrote:
NaVi's captain is Lil. He said it himself.


Then you could answer like that ten posts ago. Pathetic.

BTW, the team seems clueless right now, and the calls are awful. I hope Lil will improve.

Whatever dude.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
February 21 2018 13:03 GMT
#4925
Suck more lol. Why did they persist with dendi drafting. He cant draft at all. C'mon balls up and give the drafting/captain seat to either lil or lebron (I prefer the latter).
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
February 21 2018 14:57 GMT
#4926
On February 21 2018 22:03 DucK- wrote:
Suck more lol. Why did they persist with dendi drafting. He cant draft at all. C'mon balls up and give the drafting/captain seat to either lil or lebron (I prefer the latter).

Really. They looked clueless. First game was atrocious. The last fight at roshan was pub-like.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
February 26 2018 02:47 GMT
#4927
On February 21 2018 23:57 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2018 22:03 DucK- wrote:
Suck more lol. Why did they persist with dendi drafting. He cant draft at all. C'mon balls up and give the drafting/captain seat to either lil or lebron (I prefer the latter).

Really. They looked clueless. First game was atrocious. The last fight at roshan was pub-like.



Well hopefully they can pull it together. Fnatic when they first got Universe looked really bad and uncoordinated for a while. And they took fourth, but looked good at ESl and played pretty well vs Liquid. So improvement isn't out of the question but it has to come soon
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4386 Posts
February 26 2018 04:41 GMT
#4928
Meanwhile, Rodjer is tournament MVP for his new team.
Sucker for nostalgia
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
February 26 2018 05:53 GMT
#4929
Fnatic was all about getting used to playing with a new player. Navi has to do that with the addition of finding a new working leader/direction for the team. We have a hard time ahead...
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
February 26 2018 08:01 GMT
#4930
Like we all already and for the longest time know, they need a captain. That thing where "everyone helps with shot calling and stuff" will never work. When it really counts, they will never be sure which voice should they ALL listen to.
The drafting is no big deal if they are in sync in game, or rather leave it for later, because you can have the best draft and do nothing with it.

If I were there and with the power to organize them, this is how I would start:
- Decide who is pos5 and captain, this person must know the limits of their teammates and ask them to let him know when they feel they are up and ready to fight (like when they get an item), then HE calls the shot and they go for something as a team
- Lil and LeBron MUST play pubs ALWAYS TOGETHER and as support, work on their chemistry and playing as one, if they don't know what the other will do without asking, they have a long way to go
- The cores just need to work on their hero pools and rotations

If they can improve these three points, they will show a way better performance just from that. Dota is hard to play, play as a team is harder, the mechanic skills are there, they just need to understand that you can't go for half assed ideas and expect them to work. They have been failing at it for months/years.

I hope ArtStyle realizes he can be a contender and comes back.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
March 06 2018 16:16 GMT
#4931
I am calling it, NaVi is playing Liquid tomorrow. Easy way out of the tournament.
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
March 06 2018 18:03 GMT
#4932
Pain so easy way to extend the life of a dying cow
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-06 22:04:25
March 06 2018 22:03 GMT
#4933
On March 07 2018 03:03 its_a_me wrote:
Pain so easy way to extend the life of a dying cow

Yeah, I am glad I was wrong. Hopefully they will win and we get to see them play another round.
They usually get the worst opponents possible.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
March 08 2018 11:05 GMT
#4934
Still too much to work on, I don't focus on drafts too much, but I think the Gyro didn't belong there and the OD aliviated a lot of the damage DW could have done. They looked way better than last tournament and the last game was winnable.
Hope they show a better performance on Epicenter. If not, they can already kiss their direct invites good bye.
NoahJones
Profile Joined March 2018
6 Posts
March 10 2018 15:29 GMT
#4935
When navi will make a comeback?
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
March 11 2018 00:15 GMT
#4936
On March 08 2018 20:05 Racket wrote:
Still too much to work on, I don't focus on drafts too much, but I think the Gyro didn't belong there and the OD aliviated a lot of the damage DW could have done. They looked way better than last tournament and the last game was winnable.
Hope they show a better performance on Epicenter. If not, they can already kiss their direct invites good bye.

Funny enough, the main thing keeping Navi in the top 8 for the pro circuit is that the same couple of teams always seem to make top 4 in these tournaments. That could change at any point though with VGJ Thunder on a roll lately and a resurgent Evil Geniuses just falling short.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
March 11 2018 08:41 GMT
#4937
On March 11 2018 09:15 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 20:05 Racket wrote:
Still too much to work on, I don't focus on drafts too much, but I think the Gyro didn't belong there and the OD aliviated a lot of the damage DW could have done. They looked way better than last tournament and the last game was winnable.
Hope they show a better performance on Epicenter. If not, they can already kiss their direct invites good bye.

Funny enough, the main thing keeping Navi in the top 8 for the pro circuit is that the same couple of teams always seem to make top 4 in these tournaments. That could change at any point though with VGJ Thunder on a roll lately and a resurgent Evil Geniuses just falling short.

Yeah, one thing for them could be to focus on Minors trying to get some points there. We have already seen some where no tier1 team is present.
LoganWilliamsq
Profile Joined March 2018
1 Post
March 12 2018 00:52 GMT
#4938
Hey, what you think about coach? XBOCT is helping the team?
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
March 12 2018 05:28 GMT
#4939
Well they're definitely going nowhere with dendi drafting.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
March 12 2018 08:16 GMT
#4940
On March 12 2018 14:28 DucK- wrote:
Well they're definitely going nowhere with dendi drafting.

Last video seemed like Lil did all the work. Maybe it was a joke. Dendi said he just clicks around.
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