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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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cbk486
154 Posts
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
Hvost has gotten many unnecessary amount of hate it's just stupid. If you have nothing else better to do then attacking Hvost then you aren't a fan of the team. Period. I have seen nothing but fake fans throwing Hvost under the bus without giving good reason other then "he's bad". Please. I already knew when Na'Vi didn't get into grand finals for TI4, people like that would just come out of the wood works. It's fun identifying them as they come out. | ||
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
That said, I am surprised XBOCT consistently comes up as a suspected culprit - he has been playing a fairly consistent 60-80 hours a fortnight of dota (minus his holidays/post TI) for almost the entire year, so his individual rate of practice is fairly decent.* It seems at least to me that the three cores do play a fairly consistent amount of dota as individuals. While Navi has never been a particularly "active" scrimming team, the impression from interviews (particularly that 40 minute one with Dendi post TI4) it is less any specific player responsible for the lack of team practice and more the attitude across the entire team / player relationships. Of course, it's all speculation. * since he likes to alias for half of Navi's games, it seems like I have to check his profile every second week to figure out if he's actually in lobby for Navi's matches. | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
It's not a team scrim, but knowing your teammates is maybe the most paramount skill in dota, and you can still do that with half the team. | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On the rare times Dendi streams and stuff, he very rarely plays with people, and even more rarely it's with anyone from Na'Vi (just to have fun and what nots) They practice separately but never together for some odd reason. Then again... same could be said or like other teams. We don't see them do it, but does that mean they don't? Who knows. Can only guess >.< | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On August 02 2014 13:18 Seraphic wrote: I don't know honestly, as far as I know.. for the longest time that's how Na'Vi has always been. On the rare times Dendi streams and stuff, he very rarely plays with people, and even more rarely it's with anyone from Na'Vi (just to have fun and what nots) They practice separately but never together for some odd reason. Then again... same could be said or like other teams. We don't see them do it, but does that mean they don't? Who knows. Can only guess >.< He's been quite clear, including on stream, how he would like it to be. Instead of calling people out for being fake fans maybe consider some of us have taken into account a lot of things not just "oh a bad result." | ||
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drusalnik
Bulgaria133 Posts
Nice...... Get your rose tinted goggles off please it is clear XBOCT has a problem with the team tuss making it hard for others to work with him as well. Do you remember the outburst he had when they lost ti3? Don't even get me started on the attitude they bring and then come up with stupid excuses.. and i'm talking all of them the only sensible person in this team at the moment is kuroky and maybe funn1k but that's maybe because funn1k just plays and doesn't comment like a chimp where ever he goes what hes team does or does not do during practice. Get a grip all of you who are defending them saying this is just a slump no it is not a slump the team has problems its obvious they said they were trying to resolve them they didn't manage proven by the fact they didn't get top3 at this Ti. From there on there will be only feuds between them because as i mentioned in my previous post this team is made of "STAR PLAYERS" or maybe i should start calling them former star players now because lets face it they do not look or act/play like those caliber of players now. | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On August 02 2014 17:27 drusalnik wrote: So what only navi fans are allowed to comment on this team? Nice...... Get your rose tinted goggles off please it is clear XBOCT has a problem with the team tuss making it hard for others to work with him as well. Do you remember the outburst he had when they lost ti3? Don't even get me started on the attitude they bring and then come up with stupid excuses.. and i'm talking all of them the only sensible person in this team at the moment is kuroky and maybe funn1k but that's maybe because funn1k just plays and doesn't comment like a chimp where ever he goes what hes team does or does not do during practice. Get a grip all of you who are defending them saying this is just a slump no it is not a slump the team has problems its obvious they said they were trying to resolve them they didn't manage proven by the fact they didn't get top3 at this Ti. From there on there will be only feuds between them because as i mentioned in my previous post this team is made of "STAR PLAYERS" or maybe i should start calling them former star players now because lets face it they do not look or act/play like those caliber of players now. My god are you a drama queen | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
Seemed mostly sensible to me even if we disagree slightly on problem children. | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On August 03 2014 10:01 FHDH wrote: Seemed mostly sensible to me even if we disagree slightly on problem children. No it isn't its a kid who has 14 years and has too much imagination | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On August 02 2014 17:27 drusalnik wrote: So what only navi fans are allowed to comment on this team? Nice...... Get your rose tinted goggles off please it is clear XBOCT has a problem with the team tuss making it hard for others to work with him as well. Do you remember the outburst he had when they lost ti3? Don't even get me started on the attitude they bring and then come up with stupid excuses.. and i'm talking all of them the only sensible person in this team at the moment is kuroky and maybe funn1k but that's maybe because funn1k just plays and doesn't comment like a chimp where ever he goes what hes team does or does not do during practice. Get a grip all of you who are defending them saying this is just a slump no it is not a slump the team has problems its obvious they said they were trying to resolve them they didn't manage proven by the fact they didn't get top3 at this Ti. From there on there will be only feuds between them because as i mentioned in my previous post this team is made of "STAR PLAYERS" or maybe i should start calling them former star players now because lets face it they do not look or act/play like those caliber of players now. It's a forum. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If this is yours, I respect it but people can also tell you that you can be wrong. Get a grip man. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
http://www.dota2navigation.com/ This was very recently released and appears to be a joint project of Dendi, Puppey, and Na'Vi; it is branded with all three so presumably they looked forward to keeping both players before they entered this arrangement, otherwise it is a very awkwardly-branded product. This is far from definitive I know, but I think they'd be fools to let either of them go this year. [Edit] My understanding was this was new because they made a big deal about it launching on twitter like 5-6 weeks ago (and I'd never seen it before) but I'm seeing posts that date way back; maybe I am totally wrong? | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On August 04 2014 07:30 FHDH wrote: One potentially complicating factor in any team movements that involve Dendi (lol) or Puppey leaving the team: http://www.dota2navigation.com/ This was very recently released and appears to be a joint project of Dendi, Puppey, and Na'Vi; it is branded with all three so presumably they looked forward to keeping both players before they entered this arrangement, otherwise it is a very awkwardly-branded product. This is far from definitive I know, but I think they'd be fools to let either of them go this year. [Edit] My understanding was this was new because they made a big deal about it launching on twitter like 5-6 weeks ago (and I'd never seen it before) but I'm seeing posts that date way back; maybe I am totally wrong? Yep it's new. Just pre-TI. However, unless Na'Vi have the two undercontract for longer, they can still opt out and Na'Vi can replace their pictures and such. It'll be sad but if either players think they can be better off elsewhere, who are we to judge? | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On August 04 2014 08:11 EnumaAvalon wrote: Yep it's new. Just pre-TI. However, unless Na'Vi have the two undercontract for longer, they can still opt out and Na'Vi can replace their pictures and such. It'll be sad but if either players think they can be better off elsewhere, who are we to judge? Sure sure, I don't think there's anything that would make a move impossible, I'm more saying maybe they would not have gone into this arrangement if they did not decide beforehand they were keeping both regardless of TI results. Maybe. | ||
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MyrMindservant
695 Posts
On August 04 2014 08:11 EnumaAvalon wrote: Yep it's new. Just pre-TI. However, unless Na'Vi have the two undercontract for longer, they can still opt out and Na'Vi can replace their pictures and such. It'll be sad but if either players think they can be better off elsewhere, who are we to judge? Or, what is more likely IMO, they can continue this project in its current shape even if one of the involved players will leave the team. It will be much more complicated but not impossible. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On August 04 2014 08:19 MyrMindservant wrote: Or, what is more likely IMO, they can continue this project in its current shape even if one of the involved players will leave the team. It will be much more complicated but not impossible. They definitely can but I don't think it's "more likely" that was their thought process at the time. Na'Vi seems to run, from a business perspective, very intelligently. Branding is important to business ventures. Puppey and/or Dendi leaving Na'Vi would negatively impact the branding of this product. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34167 Posts
Not because someone is leaving the Dota 2 team means they are leaving the organization, for all we know maybe X player got bored of the competitive scene because of ... i dont know you tell me lol, and wants something more relaxed ? | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On August 04 2014 10:52 FHDH wrote: Sure, that's a possibility I suppose. Don't know how likely Puppey is to want to retire to coaching/management etc but I could see it. Dendi I couldn't, not yet. I'd actually prefer to see Dendi draft. I think it's a good idea actually. | ||
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