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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 18 2014 15:19 GMT
#461
Welp, time to find out.

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После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-18 16:40:13
August 18 2014 16:34 GMT
#462
Am i the only one to believe that half the reason Na'Vi managed their whole "never practice" thing is because Puppey was such a good drafter that he managed to figure the opponents out within a series and then draft a strong draft that they could "chaos dota" with and win?

When Puppeys drafting failed at TI4, which it did - horribly. Na'Vi had nothing to go back to and simply lost. The games they won and looked like Na'Vi where games were Puppey managed to actually draft something half decent that his players could actually play(no XBOX Brew or Tide...). Atleast that's how i feel, hence losing Puppey would require some serious changes to their training regime. And Na'Vi without Puppey simply isn't Na'Vi.

It has to be said though, in all this, that Puppeys drafting was terrible in TI4. Even for a noob like me i just went "eehh wtf is this"

Compare this to TI3 where Puppey drafted things such as Tidehunter once or twice to counter Weaver when Tide was barely played at all iirc. When i saw that i just went "wait what.. that's brilliant" - needless to say there were no such moments at TI4.
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
August 18 2014 17:19 GMT
#463
Aaaand Puppey stays, good. Now just get your drafting together and get another support that you can work with. #RoadToTI5
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-18 17:43:17
August 18 2014 17:43 GMT
#464
Bye Kuro, it was the obvious choice because of the lenguage barrier, even if all 5 can talk english

I would have love to see him playing as a Carry, he was one of the best after all (And his morph was GODLIKE)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14898 Posts
August 18 2014 18:04 GMT
#465
On August 19 2014 02:19 unkkz wrote:
Aaaand Puppey stays, good. Now just get your drafting together and get another support that you can work with. #RoadToTI5


Doesn't mean he's staying, just means that he's there for today
k1nGTHELEGEND
Profile Joined December 2012
Greece62 Posts
August 18 2014 19:53 GMT
#466
puppey is leaving too for sure...2 more announcements coming
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 18 2014 21:56 GMT
#467
Puppey isn't leaving, not this year.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 18 2014 21:57 GMT
#468
On August 19 2014 06:56 FHDH wrote:
Puppey isn't leaving, not this year.

On August 19 2014 04:53 k1nGTHELEGEND wrote:
puppey is leaving too for sure...2 more announcements coming

Ah I love the internet. 2 polar opposite statements one after the other, neither with any sort of substantiation, backing or explanation. Just 2 opposing statements there for people to accept one and reject the other on no basis whatsoever lol.
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wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-18 22:07:26
August 18 2014 22:07 GMT
#469
It's not going to be Xboct because from what I hear around the interwebz, he has some kind of inner-circle blood-pact illuminati relationship with management.

It's not going to be Dendi because letting him go would essentially be Na'Vi declaring: "we fucking hate money!"

That leaves Puppey and Funnik getting the boot in my book.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 18 2014 22:08 GMT
#470
I don't think there's any friction with funn1k whereas I think there's friction with puppey and puppey is the one who's so attached to Kuro.
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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
August 18 2014 22:18 GMT
#471
Only one more player to get the boot?
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Churrass
Profile Joined October 2013
573 Posts
August 18 2014 22:29 GMT
#472
ofc its puppey lol, dont know why its even on discussion
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 19 2014 02:19 GMT
#473
It has to be Puppey.

I don't like it... Its like... losing Zeus for Na'Vi's CS team during their prime. But I mean... it has to be really there isn't anyone else. Hvost is close friends to Dendi and ZG. If they kick Hvost, then they probably lose Dendi in the process. This is the whole problem with Na'Vi's roster this time around. It's all tied to someone. Kuro to Puppey, Hvost is to Dendi & ZG.

I mean... ya Hvost didn't do well this year but neither did Dendi. Kruo and Puppey didn't really gank as much as they used to and just ditched their 3 lanes to do their own thing half of the time.

Guess we'll see but... I guess it's a good time to welcome Vanskor and FNG huh?
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
August 19 2014 02:40 GMT
#474
The only person who put in a consistently decent performance in Navi's last six months was Funnik (who did fall off at TI4). The changes to the team will be about putting them in a place where they can actually function and practice more as an outfit rather than who was playing the best.
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Qbyx
Profile Joined November 2007
Romania210 Posts
August 19 2014 08:04 GMT
#475
Bye Kuro.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
August 19 2014 09:43 GMT
#476
Didn't want to see him go but whatever is best for Na`Vi, I am ok with it.
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
August 19 2014 11:59 GMT
#477
Best of luck kky! NaVi was lucky to have you in their lineup.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 19 2014 20:29 GMT
#478
Why is everyone sure another player is leaving and basing their analysis that Puppey must be leaving on that?
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 22:36:04
August 19 2014 22:34 GMT
#479
On August 20 2014 05:29 FHDH wrote:
Why is everyone sure another player is leaving and basing their analysis that Puppey must be leaving on that?

Because there were rumors of "friction" with Puppey in the past. Then there's the Kuro-Puppey Bromance. Lastly, everyone thinks that XBOCT is immortal in Na'Vi because he's very good friends with Zero Gravity and Dendi, and Dendi is just Dendi. No manager will kick Dendi out.

EDIT:
http://dota.2p.com/article.shtml?id=8413272
So there's a mystery team from EU with TWO TI champions. The only team that fits that bill is Na'Vi if they kick Puppey since that would make XBOCT and Dendi the only TI Champions in the team
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DoctorHeckle
Profile Joined October 2013
United States192 Posts
August 19 2014 22:44 GMT
#480
Kicking Dendi would be like kicking Derek Jeter: he's the face of the organization and easily the most popular Dota 2 player throughout the game's lifespan. His name has become synonymous with big plays and game sense mastery; it would be brand suicide to let him go.
I keep things two ways: Nice, and neat.
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