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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
January 30 2017 23:14 GMT
#4321
Pretty decent series today overall, im getting some hope from this team

But stop picking undying lol, they have to keep practicing but the comeback on g2 vs AF showed some really really good plays. And Game 1 was also a very good game

Go navi

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2017 02:46 GMT
#4322
Could be worse, they need to start 2-0 to get to Starladder. Dendi has looked good from what I've caught of the matches. Their support duo is pretty underwhelming so far but we will see if more matches improves that.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3338 Posts
January 31 2017 06:39 GMT
#4323
On January 31 2017 11:46 the bear jew wrote:
Could be worse, they need to start 2-0 to get to Starladder. Dendi has looked good from what I've caught of the matches. Their support duo is pretty underwhelming so far but we will see if more matches improves that.

Yeah it seems like mechanically they're not the worst. they just aren't maximizing their time and aimlessly wandering around. on the other hand, because the support duo isn't showing on the map at all, Dendi's been having a fairly 1v1-ish matchup and he's been doing well in them. imo
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Damned627
Profile Joined November 2016
Indonesia264 Posts
January 31 2017 12:08 GMT
#4324
Yeah, rmn- and Biver is pretty underwhelming, and Biver is always playing Rubick all the time. Pajkatt did good here and there, but too inconsistent, even though he plays great on Jugg
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Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 31 2017 12:13 GMT
#4325
Give them some time. Don't have high expectations. If this Na'vi manage to get as good as second half 2016 it's already a reason to celebrate.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
January 31 2017 13:34 GMT
#4326
On January 31 2017 21:13 Pontual wrote:
Give them some time. Don't have high expectations. If this Na'vi manage to get as good as second half 2016 it's already a reason to celebrate.

They playing again is a reason to celebrate!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
January 31 2017 14:59 GMT
#4327
I think you guys are downplaying biver, he has some great games overall

Problem is that supporting is so shit nowadays, back and forth getting runes and warding, no gank, no flashy plays, it fucking sucks

I thinl they need time to get better, AF was fucking yerrible and they got to a Major finals. Especially since this patch is the biggest one ever, nobody knows what the fuck to do still, you see teams trying new stuff almost every game*

* = No more Undying pls lol
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
January 31 2017 15:43 GMT
#4328
They played pretty good the last few games, no comparison to the liquid series. But rmn and biever need to step up their game. These days you need strong position 4 players, like zai, jerax and gh, who make the diffrence in many games. To be fair you cant do much with a shitty undying, but they also feed a bit too much.
_Elendil
Profile Joined July 2016
Italy192 Posts
January 31 2017 18:36 GMT
#4329
Getting better. Too late to qualify probably, but who cares.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
January 31 2017 19:48 GMT
#4330
At this point with such a new line up, do what you can but just focus on getting experience... They are slowly but surely playing better as a team

Liquid game was just that, Liquid, top dogs of dota nowadayd even if the Major was kinda dissapoiting
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3338 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-31 19:53:22
January 31 2017 19:50 GMT
#4331
We can still technically qualify but it'll take the stars aligning for it to happen.
We 2-0 C9, and C9 ties or loses to Secret.
Secret needs to lose to 2-0 to Vega and then they need to tie with AF and tie/win C9.
AF needs to tie Secret and then lose 2-0 to alliance (they can 1-1 but then we're tied at 10 points apiece with with AF)

We really dropped the ball with the tie against Horde
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V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
January 31 2017 19:53 GMT
#4332
In other words - not gonna happen
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
January 31 2017 19:59 GMT
#4333
Wathever dude, im just wanting them to get better, which they are

Especially the support duo rmn got some top games as Leshrac and this last Biver game was soooo gooood
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3338 Posts
January 31 2017 20:02 GMT
#4334
On February 01 2017 04:59 Faruko wrote:
Wathever dude, im just wanting them to get better, which they are

Especially the support duo rmn got some top games as Leshrac and this last Biver game was soooo gooood

Yeah I agree that I want them to get better. I think having some LAN experience would do wonders, but yeah at this point, doesn't look likely that they're going to continue onto the next stage of SL.

Definitely seeing lots of growth though, so that makes me excited
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
January 31 2017 20:03 GMT
#4335
Yes, i want too see a 2:0 against C9 and i will be satisfied with their performance so far, too bad they went 1:1 with Horde.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2017 22:18 GMT
#4336
As sad as I would be for Navi to not be at Starladder, at least the support duo is finally pulling their weight. Hopefully the positive momentum keeps up and they can qualify for future tournaments, especially Kiev.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ratedBlade
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada33 Posts
February 01 2017 00:38 GMT
#4337
I honeslty have no idea how u cant be happy with Bivers performance. Hes hands down the best performer overall with Dendi so far. He makes a lot of plays happen with his Rubick even when he doesnt have items. I am not so good at tracking wards as a spectator but it seems like they are doing really well in that regard. I have seen a lot of dewards recently
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
February 01 2017 01:44 GMT
#4338
On February 01 2017 09:38 ratedBlade wrote:
I honeslty have no idea how u cant be happy with Bivers performance. Hes hands down the best performer overall with Dendi so far. He makes a lot of plays happen with his Rubick even when he doesnt have items. I am not so good at tracking wards as a spectator but it seems like they are doing really well in that regard. I have seen a lot of dewards recently


First few games support play was rough, very rough, a lot of deaths, last few games a lot better plays, better movements it seemed. Not sure if they switched who called in game shots, or just got some more confidence/pushed through initial nerves of playing for Navi. Still a huge name and a lot of expectations from fans.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3338 Posts
February 01 2017 02:15 GMT
#4339
hey if secret tie the rest of their games against AF (possible) and Vega (slightly less likely), we beat c9 2-0, and AF tie their last game against alliance (maybe???) then we'll have a 3 way tie for the second qualifier spot! more navi games please!!!
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Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 09:08:57
February 01 2017 09:08 GMT
#4340
Qualified or not, I only want to see them play and get experience, rmN- and Biver need to play comfortable and you only get that playing and building cohesion.
Those who expect this team to perform, with two nonames and a carry how is often bashed, have to chill. Just as Liquid needed a year to show results hopefully NaVi will be need less time to achieve the same and if not then leave them alone, you have to support the team in the bad and good moments (even if those never end).
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