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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 22:14:14
April 18 2016 22:13 GMT
#3401
Well that means we have a random SEA team in a major. I personally do not like that since SEA teams are quite bad. But the major's at Manila though, so I guess having 3 SEA makes sense. I'd definitely invite MVP and Fnatic, and leave only ONE qualifier spot to be fought for.

Quick question though. If only one of MVP or fnatic can be invited, who is more deserving of the invite? My vote is for MVP because they won dotapit. fnatic may be on a great streak currently, but it's all against SEA teams. MVP's win at an international event should be rewarded.

On a navi related note, great wins today. In the past, they seem to struggle against CIS teams. But spirit got stomped...
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
April 18 2016 22:16 GMT
#3402
Any of the Pinoy teams which might be good enough to make it out of the qualifier? I mean it'd be a much greater event if the home fans got someone to cheer their hearts out for
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 18 2016 22:28 GMT
#3403
and no dig its actually a decent team that has been trading blows with good eu teams

so thats something extra too
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
April 18 2016 22:28 GMT
#3404
On April 19 2016 07:13 DucK- wrote:
Well that means we have a random SEA team in a major. I personally do not like that since SEA teams are quite bad. But the major's at Manila though, so I guess having 3 SEA makes sense. I'd definitely invite MVP and Fnatic, and leave only ONE qualifier spot to be fought for.

Quick question though. If only one of MVP or fnatic can be invited, who is more deserving of the invite? My vote is for MVP because they won dotapit. fnatic may be on a great streak currently, but it's all against SEA teams. MVP's win at an international event should be rewarded.

On a navi related note, great wins today. In the past, they seem to struggle against CIS teams. But spirit got stomped...


If only one, MVP for the higher placing and the LAN win.

And yeah, great games vs Spirit and vs Diggity.

Interesting Mirana picks but worked out great.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 22:30:02
April 18 2016 22:28 GMT
#3405
On April 19 2016 07:13 DucK- wrote:
Well that means we have a random SEA team in a major. I personally do not like that since SEA teams are quite bad. But the major's at Manila though, so I guess having 3 SEA makes sense. I'd definitely invite MVP and Fnatic, and leave only ONE qualifier spot to be fought for.

Quick question though. If only one of MVP or fnatic can be invited, who is more deserving of the invite? My vote is for MVP because they won dotapit. fnatic may be on a great streak currently, but it's all against SEA teams. MVP's win at an international event should be rewarded.

On a navi related note, great wins today. In the past, they seem to struggle against CIS teams. But spirit got stomped...

Well if it would be between MVP or fnatic, the invite would go to MVP for sure. Its exactly as you said, fnatic only stomp bad SEA teams. Sure they beat MVP quite often, but they also didnt win a big lan like MVP...
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 19 2016 00:27 GMT
#3406
MVP its kinda the obvious option, sure they imploded in SL, but thats one LAN

fnatic has done nothing bar beating SEA teams, and while they look good, they havent done something impressive like winning a LAN or achieving a GF
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
April 19 2016 02:42 GMT
#3407
Why is Fnatic vs MVP even a discussion?

4th place Shanghai and 1st place DotaPit. That's basically the whole discussion.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
April 19 2016 03:19 GMT
#3408
I'm just happy to see Navi winning quite a bit :D
Everyone seems to have gotten a lot more cohesive and their discipline has impressed me.
Maybe the first time they've had a good experience in china. they just need to bootcamp there but not participate in lans tehre (like Alienware cup in 2013) :D
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Kasto
Profile Joined May 2010
473 Posts
April 19 2016 13:21 GMT
#3409
If the patch doens't come out in a couple of days, they've got a pretty solid chance to qualify for DreamLeague and ESL Frankfurt.
Was very nice to see them play in SL, hope they can carry it onwards.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
April 19 2016 21:43 GMT
#3410
On April 19 2016 22:21 Kasto wrote:
If the patch doens't come out in a couple of days, they've got a pretty solid chance to qualify for DreamLeague and ESL Frankfurt.
Was very nice to see them play in SL, hope they can carry it onwards.

They just need 1 game from Dreamleague to qualify right? And the worst that can happen is if they lose 0-2 to both VP and Vega, VP wins 2-0 against Spirit and then NaVi has to tiebreak with No Diggity. Or am i missing something?

Hope they make a good LB run in ESL. I'd love it if they get to go to Frankfurt before TI6
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 19 2016 21:47 GMT
#3411
Wooh. No idea how they won game 2. The navi 3 weeks ago would have probably crumbled.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
April 19 2016 22:00 GMT
#3412
On April 20 2016 06:47 DucK- wrote:
Wooh. No idea how they won game 2. The navi 3 weeks ago would have probably crumbled.

you woke up awfully early for someone who is in Singapore :O

I think the current Navi's is much much more discipline in their play. It could be because of the new batch of players, the old Navi would have had to chain xboct to the ground to prevent him from diving ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 19 2016 22:05 GMT
#3413
Actually, i think NaVi its already qualified, because at most they go 8-6 which means they tie with ND and i suppose that the tie breaker its head to head, and in that regard NaVi has a 2-0 over ND

And after that theres only 2 teams with less than 6 loses for 3 spots

:D
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
April 19 2016 22:17 GMT
#3414
On April 20 2016 07:00 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 06:47 DucK- wrote:
Wooh. No idea how they won game 2. The navi 3 weeks ago would have probably crumbled.

you woke up awfully early for someone who is in Singapore :O

I think the current Navi's is much much more discipline in their play. It could be because of the new batch of players, the old Navi would have had to chain xboct to the ground to prevent him from diving ...


Did it come across your mind of the possibility that I could have stayed up all this while XD
Kasto
Profile Joined May 2010
473 Posts
April 19 2016 22:23 GMT
#3415
Thought they might drop a game today and they almost did, but really disciplined and nice play from Na'Vi. As Faruko said DL should be decided. Now just 2 matches to secure ESL spot.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
April 20 2016 03:48 GMT
#3416
On April 20 2016 07:05 Faruko wrote:
Actually, i think NaVi its already qualified, because at most they go 8-6 which means they tie with ND and i suppose that the tie breaker its head to head, and in that regard NaVi has a 2-0 over ND

And after that theres only 2 teams with less than 6 loses for 3 spots

:D

They 1-1'd against ND. So wouldn't that make it ND and Navi at 8-6 for tiebreakers for 3rd spot right?
I really hope it won't go that way but huge if's if Navi go 0-4 last 2 sets.

In other news, Navi have Team Spirit and VP to try to qualify for ESL Frankfurt . They just 2-0'd TS recently at DreamLeague, so I'm not too worried about them. But VP seems to have Na'Vi's number every time they play (like seriously every iteration seems to beat NaVi).
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 20 2016 10:02 GMT
#3417
Oh yeah, they beat ND 2-0 in ESL not DL
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
April 20 2016 12:21 GMT
#3418
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Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
April 20 2016 13:34 GMT
#3419
On April 19 2016 11:42 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Why is Fnatic vs MVP even a discussion?

4th place Shanghai and 1st place DotaPit. That's basically the whole discussion.

Probably because fnatic have been winning 90% of their games the last couple of months
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 20 2016 16:10 GMT
#3420
On April 20 2016 22:34 wims80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 11:42 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Why is Fnatic vs MVP even a discussion?

4th place Shanghai and 1st place DotaPit. That's basically the whole discussion.

Probably because fnatic have been winning 90% of their games the last couple of months

only against sea teams, they proved nothing against eu...
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