EPTNa`Vi Discussion - Page 164
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
And im really surprised by General  | ||
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Racket
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Kinda extremely aggressive. I would say that is a double edged sword, they are not getting so ahead of the opponent as I expect them to. | ||
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pyrocumulus
United States65 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On February 17 2016 02:45 pyrocumulus wrote: Thoughts on NaVi v. Team Spirit? I felt that Navi overextended a lot. WR and NP pretty much had free farm, Chen could just jungle and did not have to rotate, while Bat was having such a good time at top lane. They could have just kept things that way. But Navi went for several kill attempts, but should have retreated when they didn't execute the ganks well. Instead, they went too aggressive and fed unnecessary kills. Bad performance from every player this game. General 10+ minute Blink is too late for a Bat with such a start. He played a pub style kill seeking Bat rather than a tempo controlling one. It worked for him in several games prior, but he was rightly punished this game. Ditya Ra Questionable teleports this game which lead to several deaths. Artstyle A non-factor this game. Think he walked into a Chrono. Several unnecessary deaths as well. Dendi He was in a free farm position in mid lane, but threw the advantage away through poor gank executions and overextensions. Sonneiko Least faulty of the lot. Nothing much he could do really given how the game went. But he was part of the several fail gank attempts that helped Invoker recover. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On February 17 2016 03:11 DucK- wrote: I felt that Navi overextended a lot. WR and NP pretty much had free farm, Chen could just jungle and did not have to rotate, while Bat was having such a good time at top lane. They could have just kept things that way. But Navi went for several kill attempts, but should have retreated when they didn't execute the ganks well. Instead, they went too aggressive and fed unnecessary kills. Bad performance from every player this game. General 10+ minute Blink is too late for a Bat with such a start. He played a pub style kill seeking Bat rather than a tempo controlling one. It worked for him in several games prior, but he was rightly punished this game. Ditya Ra Questionable teleports this game which lead to several deaths. Artstyle A non-factor this game. Think he walked into a Chrono. Several unnecessary deaths as well. Dendi He was in a free farm position in mid lane, but threw the advantage away through poor gank executions and overextensions. Sonneiko Least faulty of the lot. Nothing much he could do really given how the game went. But he was part of the several fail gank attempts that helped Invoker recover. Did Bat's agh see any use? I missed the game but I thought if they were ahead they could pull some nice Lasso + Shackle to disable two opponents for a long time, the idea is not that bad if you can execute it properly. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On February 17 2016 18:50 Racket wrote: Did Bat's agh see any use? I missed the game but I thought if they were ahead they could pull some nice Lasso + Shackle to disable two opponents for a long time, the idea is not that bad if you can execute it properly. Nope. I don't think general even had any clean lasso into pickoffs all game. | ||
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Racket
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On February 17 2016 19:17 DucK- wrote: Nope. I don't think general even had any clean lasso into pickoffs all game. Well, overall a really bad game. At least not in an important stage. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
I think dendi should have gone for a DPS qop build, rather than all in on a chrono combo. He became irrelevant in late game. General also needs to control his usage of chronos. You shouldn't be using it to kill an SB while jostling for rosh, especially when you do not have Agha yet. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3336 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
But arstyle needs to up his game, he had some shameful performances | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
He has been a big liability in games, and he isn't drafting any more. His stock has fallen due to the latter. While I was a big supporter of him then, my patience has been running low. | ||
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Verniy
Canada3360 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
Its a long way to the top, making decent progress just not as fast as we would like. For new players since TI, I'm happy with the team overall. Dityra and General are good. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On February 18 2016 12:09 Verniy wrote: just because he's not in the drafter's seat doesn't mean he isn't contributing to drafts though Yea I don't deny that. But there's only so much of his feeds that one can take, especially when it ain't showing any signs of improvement. Empire has shown how mediocre artstyle is without Chen/enchant! | ||
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Racket
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On February 18 2016 16:06 Racket wrote: I can only say. f*ck Xboct... When he was in NaVi he didn't want to draft, now he drafts and he does it properly.. wtf? haha, what can you say maybe circumstances changed or something | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On February 18 2016 16:06 Racket wrote: I can only say. f*ck Xboct... When he was in NaVi he didn't want to draft, now he drafts and he does it properly.. wtf? Na'Vi fans spend years blaming Xboct for almost everything. Xboct leaves Na'Vi and has more success than Na'Vi, rather undermining the idea that he was holding them back. And then Na'Vi fans still manage to twist things into Xboct being Na'Vi's problem. | ||
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Gevna
France2332 Posts
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