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On December 05 2015 03:11 Racket wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 03:05 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
1-12-2, 1-8-4 Artstyle stats.
How badly prepaired NaVi players are if they can't feel motivated and keep some discipline without such a liability in a roster is beyond me. Kicking XBOCT and Funni1k for Ditya.Ra and a noname surely paid off in a long run! ? Edit: Why didn't you come and post when NaVi beat OG? Not much to say if not full of hate?
OG likes to mess around after winning important tournaments, it's a known fact.
And I honeslty doubt Artstyle played a significant role in their victory either. I don't hate anyone, I am just amused that NaVi decided to draft Artstlye back after kicking him out 2 months ago, while his level of play has evidently become even worse.
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On December 05 2015 03:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
OG likes to mess around after winning important tournaments, it's a known fact.
[Citation Needed]
lmfao "known fact" etc
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@Sn0_man, if you were into money betting, you would've have known.
OG has lost to some tier 3 teams in October 1-2 or even 0-2, I recall. GG is down for me atm so I can't look up and post when exactly it was though.
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Aw, so today's games didn't go well? Damn shame. Hope they keep their heads up and work on doing better next time.
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They looked really weak, to be honest. Game 1 felt like a pub team vs. a pro team, with repeated feeds and poor positioning. They looked SLIGHTLY better in Game 2 but still made a boatload of mistakes. It felt like everyone on the entire squad was having a bad day.
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On December 05 2015 03:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 03:11 Racket wrote:On December 05 2015 03:05 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
1-12-2, 1-8-4 Artstyle stats.
How badly prepaired NaVi players are if they can't feel motivated and keep some discipline without such a liability in a roster is beyond me. Kicking XBOCT and Funni1k for Ditya.Ra and a noname surely paid off in a long run! ? Edit: Why didn't you come and post when NaVi beat OG? Not much to say if not full of hate? OG likes to mess around after winning important tournaments, it's a known fact.
And I honeslty doubt Artstyle played a significant role in their victory either. I don't hate anyone, I am just amused that NaVi decided to draft Artstlye back after kicking him out 2 months ago, while his level of play has evidently become even worse.
OG has won 2 tournaments
OG didnt play a single game between frankfurt and dreamleague and they won dreamleague without losing a single game, their first series lost was agaisnt NaVi.
so... how is that even a know fact ?
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On December 05 2015 03:41 Faruko wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 03:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On December 05 2015 03:11 Racket wrote:On December 05 2015 03:05 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
1-12-2, 1-8-4 Artstyle stats.
How badly prepaired NaVi players are if they can't feel motivated and keep some discipline without such a liability in a roster is beyond me. Kicking XBOCT and Funni1k for Ditya.Ra and a noname surely paid off in a long run! ? Edit: Why didn't you come and post when NaVi beat OG? Not much to say if not full of hate? OG likes to mess around after winning important tournaments, it's a known fact.
And I honeslty doubt Artstyle played a significant role in their victory either. I don't hate anyone, I am just amused that NaVi decided to draft Artstlye back after kicking him out 2 months ago, while his level of play has evidently become even worse. OG has won 2 tournaments OG didnt play a single game between frankfurt and dreamleague and they won dreamleague without losing a single game, their first series lost was agaisnt NaVi. so... how is that even a know fact ?
ur not part of the betting illuminati or u'd know, clearly
xd
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On December 05 2015 03:16 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2015 03:11 Racket wrote:On December 05 2015 03:05 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
1-12-2, 1-8-4 Artstyle stats.
How badly prepaired NaVi players are if they can't feel motivated and keep some discipline without such a liability in a roster is beyond me. Kicking XBOCT and Funni1k for Ditya.Ra and a noname surely paid off in a long run! ? Edit: Why didn't you come and post when NaVi beat OG? Not much to say if not full of hate? OG likes to mess around after winning important tournaments, it's a known fact. And I honeslty doubt Artstyle played a significant role in their victory either. I don't hate anyone, I am just amused that NaVi decided to draft Artstlye back after kicking him out 2 months ago, while his level of play has evidently become even worse.
NaVi didn't kick ArtStyle, he left on his own. NaVi just didn't stop him. If you wanna say something, at least try to say it accurately. I don't mind you pointing out how much NaVi sucks, because that is a fact, one that changes every now and then. But your posts are full of nonsense, "known facts" and hate. So I ask of you to post consciously at least.
Edit: Fk... NaVi goes against Secret on the last chance bracket :S, I hope Secret keeps up with their losing streak.
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Unlike other series, AXMO looked like he had a bad overall series, I was busy at work so couldn't watch super close, which is unfortunate cause he was playing well.
But hopefully they keep working together and keep improving.
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Known fact lol. I have read much bullshit and this is one of the top ones.
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I am very impressed at Ax.mo and Ditya.Ra and Ofc Sonneiko. Artstyle is the weakest link , I would agree but artstyle is also a wildly good player , captain in his own right. He has made mistakes but he has also had his moments, this meta is just not his , his signature chen is nvr to be seen . This team has good mix of new blood and veterans . I would watch out EU scene
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I would just wait, the second time ArtStyle came back they also went through something like this. Also losing to VP is not a bad thing, we are not in 2013 anymore. And losing to [A] although it wasn't expected, they then beat VP so it isn't that bad either. Even Secret is having a bad streak now.
They should keep trying, giving up after one or two series is kind of dumb.
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Artstyle is a rubbish of a player (though fucking godly on Chen). What he offers to navi is something else. Personally unless he works to reduce his random feeds, I don't think navi will dominate once again. Theres only so much a team can progress with a liability of a player skill wise, regardless of how good he is strategically. At least he is playing support, so his feeds are not that game losing.
There is room for improvement, but meanwhile I'm happy if navi just become a team that isn't pushovers - a good tier 2 team.
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A shame they lost to Secret but it was expected, at least I did.
They took one game tho and in a good manner.
I don't get why ArtStyle gave them twice in a row Ember and WR.
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On December 08 2015 16:04 Racket wrote:
A shame they lost to Secret but it was expected, at least I did.
They took one game tho and in a good manner.
I don't get why ArtStyle gave them twice in a row Ember and WR.
because Artstyle is bad, I don't know what this hype is about.
He played horribly in that series too, he did nothing with witch doctor and got caught out atleast 6 times when Nav'i had the leas in game two.
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On December 09 2015 04:07 Yunero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2015 16:04 Racket wrote:
A shame they lost to Secret but it was expected, at least I did.
They took one game tho and in a good manner.
I don't get why ArtStyle gave them twice in a row Ember and WR. because Artstyle is bad, I don't know what this hype is about. He played horribly in that series too, he did nothing with witch doctor and got caught out atleast 6 times when Nav'i had the leas in game two.
The hype is about two years of sucking bad and then some glimmer of hope thanks to one and only one re-acquisition.
You may be one of those who only find good to be the best. Sadly for you, your flair is the wrong one.
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On December 08 2015 16:04 Racket wrote:
A shame they lost to Secret but it was expected, at least I did.
They took one game tho and in a good manner.
I don't get why ArtStyle gave them twice in a row Ember and WR.
I was able to watch the series up to the game 2 draft and I think artstyle had a good idea on how to deal with the opposing draft with that huskar pick. i still wasnt able to watch the games but I think I have an idea on how they lost it. I think artstyle still does have a lot of rust to shake off considering how long he has been off the scene and I hope it will be soon because the way I see it he still is up there with the best captains ( if not the best, stretching it a bit far, yes) but his play, more specifically his positioning during team fights really drags the team down. This current team is the one that Navi should stick for the long term because they have what it takes, more time perhaps but they will definitely get there considering the glimpses that they have shown so far.
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On December 09 2015 21:54 lxginverse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2015 16:04 Racket wrote:
A shame they lost to Secret but it was expected, at least I did.
They took one game tho and in a good manner.
I don't get why ArtStyle gave them twice in a row Ember and WR. I was able to watch the series up to the game 2 draft and I think artstyle had a good idea on how to deal with the opposing draft with that huskar pick. i still wasnt able to watch the games but I think I have an idea on how they lost it. I think artstyle still does have a lot of rust to shake off considering how long he has been off the scene and I hope it will be soon because the way I see it he still is up there with the best captains ( if not the best, stretching it a bit far, yes) but his play, more specifically his positioning during team fights really drags the team down. This current team is the one that Navi should stick for the long term because they have what it takes, more time perhaps but they will definitely get there considering the glimpses that they have shown so far.
I agree, I just don't understand why TWICE in a row he gives both heroes. Once is ok, but twice is kinda dumb, at least in the way that NaVi needs to practice and losing there takes that practice away from them. But whatever, with the upcoming patch everything will become unstable until February at least.
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The problem was not giving away ember and WR. It was that artstyle drafted as if those two weren't picked. It's like he was asking to lose. Worse is that it happened 2 times, still no good heroes against the enemy draft(it's even worse that both were first picks and yeah he didn't even try to contest it).
If that was a last pick surprise pick then that's ok it happens but it was a fucking first pick ember he had tons of opportunity to draft natural counters to the hero. How did he actually expect to do well with nostuns lineup against an ember much worse that the entire draft was hypermobile(timber, wr + bountyhunter who gives off enemy teams positioning).
Despite how good Secret's ember/wr that thing is beatable but not contesting or much worse ignoring the enemy draft is not the way to do. The kind of drafting only works out for super dominating teams like Secret 2.0 or DK 2014( at one point) where it doesn't matter what the enemy picks cause they'd still end up outplaying them. But even those teams still lose when they do that shit.
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I missed the games, anyone can give me some info?
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EPT
