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shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
October 31 2015 04:30 GMT
#1141
Good. Now maybe people can learn how to support, which is fucken hard to do correctly. 10 years of Dota and I still don't know wtf im really doing besides courier and vision battles. Knowing when and why to pull, to stack, to smoke, to farm, correct positioning, timings, limited item builds, how to die usefully and the list goes on and on. I envy good support players because they have a much deeper understanding of the game.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
October 31 2015 05:02 GMT
#1142
i don't think hero spam is a sign of upcoming role changes necessarily, because Fear's spamming offlane and i'm pretty sure there's no way he's switching with Universe. I'm more interested in the Sumail meepo picks that have been happening, because they make sense for his role and w33 has demonstrated that a meepo player is a big draft-changer
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 07:51:38
November 03 2015 07:50 GMT
#1143
Its hard having so few EG games before the major... I really hope they use theier "break" well.
I hope they show up at Frankfurt with motivation to win and good drafts, if any of them are not on point, its gonna be an early exit.

Edit:
PS: What u guys think about the state of the team, are they gonna show up strong at Frankfurt? And will we see a Sumail meepo?
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
November 06 2015 15:45 GMT
#1144
On November 03 2015 16:50 Atoissen wrote:
Its hard having so few EG games before the major... I really hope they use theier "break" well.
I hope they show up at Frankfurt with motivation to win and good drafts, if any of them are not on point, its gonna be an early exit.

Edit:
PS: What u guys think about the state of the team, are they gonna show up strong at Frankfurt? And will we see a Sumail meepo?

Yea, my thought too. Will not playing any tournament till Majors take a toll in EG? My guess is yes, I hope I am proven wrong.
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 17:59:21
November 06 2015 17:56 GMT
#1145
Maybe rtz just wants to be like his senpai kuro and transition from carry player to support

Or perhaps he wants to prove he's a better support than kuro, thus ending the debate on who was right
rip
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
November 06 2015 20:32 GMT
#1146
On November 07 2015 02:56 TomatoBisque wrote:
Maybe rtz just wants to be like his senpai kuro and transition from carry player to support

Or perhaps he wants to prove he's a better support than kuro, thus ending the debate on who was right

or maybe ppd decided he has to play support and there's nothing he can do about it xD
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44098 Posts
November 08 2015 17:30 GMT
#1147


alright we know the tards scrimmed

+ Show Spoiler [and look great name team] +


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we are finally gonna see the team play soon (can they please sign up more goddamn tournaments )
this is a quote
nuekboi
Profile Joined November 2015
7 Posts
November 09 2015 08:38 GMT
#1148
You guys think the lack of official matches will hurt or help EG going into the major? They haven't even played 20 officials since TI5 ended
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Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
November 09 2015 08:49 GMT
#1149
On November 09 2015 17:38 nuekboi wrote:
You guys think the lack of official matches will hurt or help EG going into the major? They haven't even played 20 officials since TI5 ended

I think they were happy with the amount of games they got at MLG + the bootcamp they just had should put them at a decent state.
But I think they are gonna struggle at the group stage and come stronger when the Major advances to the playoffs (Classic EG, right? )
But im excited to see them again, and a tiny bit scared also.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
November 09 2015 09:23 GMT
#1150
On November 09 2015 17:38 nuekboi wrote:
You guys think the lack of official matches will hurt or help EG going into the major? They haven't even played 20 officials since TI5 ended

Big time. It's very unprofessional of them
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44098 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 10:34:57
November 09 2015 10:34 GMT
#1151
On November 09 2015 17:38 nuekboi wrote:
You guys think the lack of official matches will hurt or help EG going into the major? They haven't even played 20 officials since TI5 ended

They should be ok if they scrimmed alot but like they said official makes people tryhard so it's kinda the best way to practice even if it reveals too much to other teams.

It'd be a bummer if EG still hasn't managed to adjust after all this time since they are expected to put up a show (hell they won alot of tournaments not practicing lol)
this is a quote
nuekboi
Profile Joined November 2015
7 Posts
November 09 2015 10:39 GMT
#1152
On November 09 2015 18:23 wims80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 17:38 nuekboi wrote:
You guys think the lack of official matches will hurt or help EG going into the major? They haven't even played 20 officials since TI5 ended

Big time. It's very unprofessional of them


But doesn't it also mean that no team is able to study them that much, giving them room to pull out hidden sick strats
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44098 Posts
November 09 2015 10:43 GMT
#1153
Yeah they kinda have an advantage to surprise everybody except their scrim partners.
this is a quote
shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
November 09 2015 12:57 GMT
#1154
Problem with sick secret strategies is if they get fucked up vs current meta bullshit. It has to be a secret counter to the current meta that isn't obvious.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
November 09 2015 16:43 GMT
#1155
On November 09 2015 18:23 wims80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 17:38 nuekboi wrote:
You guys think the lack of official matches will hurt or help EG going into the major? They haven't even played 20 officials since TI5 ended

Big time. It's very unprofessional of them

I don't see how it's unprofessional? Disappointing sure, but unprofessional?
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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
November 09 2015 17:52 GMT
#1156
On November 09 2015 19:43 goody153 wrote:
Yeah they kinda have an advantage to surprise everybody except their scrim partners.

Ppd said a number of times that the teams he was most worried about coming in in a tournament where the ones which didn't participate in a lot of tournaments prior. So I guess he's fine with how things turned out.
And it's not like they could have played a lot more, apart from Nanyang I don't think they could have played more. They didn't have to qualify to anything since they've been directly invited to everything.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
November 09 2015 19:19 GMT
#1157
I think it's fine, I imagine that they also needed a bit of a mental break post TI. I actually prefer that they don't play that often, now I'm actually excited to watch the major given how little EG plays. I assume it's a really good thing for their brand, since tournaments will be incentivized to invite them given their fanbase and how few other tournaments they attend.

If I were a fan of another team, I feel like this tourney would be no different from any other in the past month or so, hell even week to week. Teams like OG seem to play 2 series a day, I get bored of watching the same teams all the time.
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Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
November 10 2015 08:22 GMT
#1158
On November 10 2015 04:19 emperorchampion wrote:
I think it's fine, I imagine that they also needed a bit of a mental break post TI. I actually prefer that they don't play that often, now I'm actually excited to watch the major given how little EG plays. I assume it's a really good thing for their brand, since tournaments will be incentivized to invite them given their fanbase and how few other tournaments they attend.

If I were a fan of another team, I feel like this tourney would be no different from any other in the past month or so, hell even week to week. Teams like OG seem to play 2 series a day, I get bored of watching the same teams all the time.

I have to agree with this, big tournaments without EG will always feel "smaller" because they didnt have the TI champhions there, the big team everyone wants to beat. The few tournaments they join automatically getts a lil bit bigger hype to it.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
November 10 2015 08:36 GMT
#1159
No lol, there's no hype, TI5 is long gone, there's a new season now. EG brings about as much hype to a tournament as Newbee brought to tournaments post TI4
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
November 10 2015 08:43 GMT
#1160
There is always hype to find out if the TI curse is real.

I wonder if we will ever see a DOTA grandslam with a team winning all the Majors. That would be the most impressive event in Esports history.
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