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arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
May 12 2018 13:24 GMT
#3681
On May 12 2018 22:00 NInoff wrote:
And it was Bo1. Bo1 is not a credible format. Just check the group stages on epicenter. No suprises. Why? Because better teams win Bo3s.


Na'vi beating VP and Secret, Pain beating Newbee, FlyToMoon beating Mineski (also VP in a BO3, but not in group stage) not enough surprises for Epicenter? I don't think the previous results this season would lead people to expect these. And this is excluding the OG results coz I had no idea how Mad played before that.

Also today Keen beats Secret, VGJ.Storm beats Fnatic both in BO3-s. Though I personally favour BO3-s coz they are way more exciting, I think this talk of BO1-s being massively unfair compared to BO3-s is a bit overhyped in Dota.
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 12 2018 13:47 GMT
#3682
On May 12 2018 21:55 arghyad1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2018 21:41 Pandemona wrote:
Ok well this tournament was weird, VGJ Storm managed to win it after losing to all teams minus keen in group stage xD

VGJ.Storm beat all teams minus Fnatic, Secret and EG in group stage.

Meant in the play offs xD
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arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
May 12 2018 13:48 GMT
#3683
On May 12 2018 22:47 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2018 21:55 arghyad1 wrote:
On May 12 2018 21:41 Pandemona wrote:
Ok well this tournament was weird, VGJ Storm managed to win it after losing to all teams minus keen in group stage xD

VGJ.Storm beat all teams minus Fnatic, Secret and EG in group stage.

Meant in the play offs xD



K... Got it. Makes sense now. :-)
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Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
May 12 2018 19:43 GMT
#3684
On May 12 2018 12:50 Taf the Ghost wrote:
I joked about EG.Kyle, but I honestly would recommend they pick him up for coaching purposes for TI.


I think you are spot on. I think that's why Arteezy mentioned he went after 71. Kyle would be a good fit on paper, but I doubt EG (Sumail & maybe Arteezy, I think) would respect what he has to say.
Doneld G.
Profile Joined July 2017
61 Posts
May 16 2018 10:44 GMT
#3685
VGJ.Storm has secured a top 3 spot in MDL, which means they will gain a minimum of 225(x3) points, and they managed to beat OG and Secret. If EG fails to secure an invite to TI, quals are looking extremely scary.
melkor3
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria50 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-16 11:11:29
May 16 2018 11:11 GMT
#3686
That is what Arteezy meant when he said that you should peak close before TI and not at the start of the season. I hope that EG will get their stuff together for the last 2 Majors this season.
The One and Only
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 16 2018 11:33 GMT
#3687
On May 16 2018 19:44 Doneld G. wrote:
VGJ.Storm has secured a top 3 spot in MDL, which means they will gain a minimum of 225(x3) points, and they managed to beat OG and Secret. If EG fails to secure an invite to TI, quals are looking extremely scary.


VGJ.Storm's points don't count, but NA's qualifiers are going to be wild.

At the same time, those qualifiers are still over a month away, so we're at least 2 meta shifts between then & now.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 16 2018 12:39 GMT
#3688
They are given points on the ranking page though? Or because of Timado kick they are like OG and can't get auto invite?

But yeah EG need make sure they don't go through NA quals as 2 spots from NA and VGJs and Optic to go through will make it very crunch. However when EG played VGJs in Thailand they beat them very comfortably, i didn't think they would go on to win that tourney yet they did so it is interesting.
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Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
May 16 2018 18:39 GMT
#3689
I think EG is still better than VGJ.S, Optic, and coL, whether or not their play is on point is a different story.

During GESC, they still had chances against Secret in groups and Keen to advance. I'm most scared of EG vs VGJ.S because Resolution seems to always play well vs EG (TI7 another example).

Day 1 vs Fnatic, then likely against VP in Birmingham. (Wiki)ESL One/Birmingham/2018
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 16 2018 20:12 GMT
#3690
Well we got "Lucky" and "Unlucky" at the same time right? 2 advance but just a 3 man group. HOWEVER, Fnatic recently beat us and VP curse has long gone. Unless VP arrive undercooked or they have figured out Fnatic better then they should be fine, but who knows right!

Oh well, lets go!
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arghyad1
Profile Joined April 2018
India243 Posts
May 16 2018 23:12 GMT
#3691
On May 17 2018 05:12 Pandemona wrote:
Well we got "Lucky" and "Unlucky" at the same time right? 2 advance but just a 3 man group. HOWEVER, Fnatic recently beat us and VP curse has long gone. Unless VP arrive undercooked or they have figured out Fnatic better then they should be fine, but who knows right!

Oh well, lets go!


It won't be a 3 team group. ESL will fly in a replacement before this major starts.

EG can still go through via direct invite. They need either a second in ESL or a 3rd in supermajor, or a 4th place in both majors; this roughly puts them around 2500 DPC points.
The more you hurt me, The Stronger I become....
Heyyoo244
Profile Joined May 2018
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-18 07:31:17
May 18 2018 07:31 GMT
#3692
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Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
May 21 2018 18:00 GMT
#3693
Well, tournament #1 of 2 before TI.

They have the potential to secure top 3 finish and take a DPC invite, but I can also see them bombing out of this tournament in the group stage and heading to NA qualifiers.

Lots of hopes but not much else to say until I see them play.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-22 07:52:06
May 22 2018 07:35 GMT
#3694
To be fair, LGD just won a tournament on the back of EGs playstyle right? "Split push" meta, surely EG should have a good time?

Also just noticed Team Spirit make up the 4th team in our group. Could be tough vs them as they are unknown and on paper have talented players. G is good, Illidan old school good carry, Phobos experienced offlaner as well.
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
May 23 2018 01:25 GMT
#3695
New "Life of a Genius" is out if anyone else watches those.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 23 2018 07:43 GMT
#3696
I do! Will check it out later tonight as i forgot or maybe this afternoon if i can sneak it in at work!
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Silent_Marine
Profile Joined April 2005
Vietnam281 Posts
May 23 2018 15:32 GMT
#3697
EG is out
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 23 2018 15:33 GMT
#3698
Time for some shuffling before next major me thinks. Unless they just do or die at it, one last hoorah for them to try somehow turn it all around and "win" that tournament to get TI, or they will change at least 1 player as Sumail and Rtc have to be 1 and 2, with some non greedy 3 who can just play a standard offlane hero.
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spacek
Profile Joined June 2010
United States213 Posts
May 23 2018 15:34 GMT
#3699
really tough group :/ but hard to have sympathy for a team that underperforms as often as they do
yaya
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 23 2018 15:37 GMT
#3700
They had just over 2 weeks to prepare for this and they look like they have taken 3 steps back. There has been so much Dota going on to study with the last major to just suck up information, yet this is how a top group of players come into their do or die season finale. Seems a bit off to me...

I wouldn't expect changes right now considering the next major begins in 10 days time, but if they fail to win that they will 100% make a change or two before TI comes round they have to.
Sumail is so wasted on a freaking doom it is killing me, he doesn't do much wrong, it just so wasted on a meta that has been farm heavy for months now

Fear is great, but if you have to choose between removing Sumail from the team or Fear then sorry the old man has to step aside. Unless like i said he can play a bunch of tidehunter/beastmaster/doom offlane with little farm prio.
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