EPTEvil Geniuses Discussion - Page 169
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
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Gaial
United States313 Posts
Is Misery going to miss tomorrow's games, or will he be back in the lineup? | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
I still think Zai, PPD, and 33/Misery would have been good with at least one of their 1/2 positions being top tier. | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
On February 14 2018 07:12 Sapaio wrote: For me the games against optic is kinda disappointing. Think the rivalry and bad blood between teams could have bought something to look forward to in dota, but Optic seems not to become the team people imagined when they formed, and mostly get noticed when PDD says something insulting. Optic didn't play pertfect but EG rised their level hard. Seems they've been watching Secred and Liquid replays a lot. Playing many different strats with their cores moving around the lanes if you want to be on par with the top teams thats the way to play dota these days. I have to admit that i had my doubts with sumail going offlane, but they really are on the right path. EG are looking better and better with each match. Can't wait to see them play against top teams again. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Anyway todays games hopefully go well and we get ourselves in the grand finals hopefully. Misery seemed to be in the hospital with probably food poisoning reading between the lines so hopefully 48 hours after that he should be better. He did say he hoped to be out of hospital by the following day (yesterday) he hasn't tweeted since though. Even so with how Bulba played and EG in general i think we would only need misery for the bo5 which isn't until the 16th. | ||
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nothingmuch
448 Posts
On February 14 2018 18:09 Pandemona wrote: Yeah they seem to be like a very poor version of the old OG per se right? OG had a great captain in Fly, one of the best 4s in the world in jerax and then s4 one of the most experienced players and now a well established 3. But they had a mid player who was weak at the start then had a weirdness add to his game plus a carry in notail who also did weird ass things. Seems Optic are this but a weaker version as CCNC and Pajkatt are even lesser than notail and co. Anyway todays games hopefully go well and we get ourselves in the grand finals hopefully. Misery seemed to be in the hospital with probably food poisoning reading between the lines so hopefully 48 hours after that he should be better. He did say he hoped to be out of hospital by the following day (yesterday) he hasn't tweeted since though. Even so with how Bulba played and EG in general i think we would only need misery for the bo5 which isn't until the 16th. As far as I can remember OG won two majors with that weak mid and weird ass carry. | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
This team would be doing a lot better had it been 1. Rtz 2. Sumail 3. Universe 4. Crit 5. Misery. Just my 2 cents / venting after seeing complexity dismantle them. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On February 15 2018 13:45 Masamune wrote: I'm not convinced with this iteration of EG. I think Sumail has the most talent on the whole team and it's a shame seeing it squandered in the offlane trying to nullify an opposing team's carry. This team would be doing a lot better had it been 1. Rtz 2. Sumail 3. Universe 4. Crit 5. Misery. Just my 2 cents / venting after seeing complexity dismantle them. So you think replacing Fear with Misery is enough to elevate the team? Because that's basically the lineup that was just average. | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
On February 15 2018 14:03 WolfintheSheep wrote: So you think replacing Fear with Misery is enough to elevate the team? Because that's basically the lineup that was just average. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion from my post. That's not at all what I thought or wrote... | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On February 15 2018 14:13 Masamune wrote: I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion from my post. That's not at all what I thought or wrote... I'm pointing out that your lineup is just the old one with Misery replacing Fear. | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
On February 15 2018 14:15 WolfintheSheep wrote: I'm pointing out that your lineup is just the old one with Misery replacing Fear. There's been a lineup with 1. Rtz 2. Sumail 3. Universe 4. Crit 5. Misery? Misery is a much much better drafter than Fear, it wouldn't be the same. And with that line up it was 1. Rtz 2. Sumail 3. Universe 4. Fear 5. Crit | ||
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
This has given them better lane match ups in general and made them look more like Secret and Liquid play style wise. Misery is a much more aggressive 5 and sometimes becomes and 4, this again have changed the play style. And ofc the drafting with him and Bulba has been part of this change. The other thing replacing Universe with Misery, or Sumails switch of role has given is a greatly improved play from Sumail that seem to have found new motivation. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 15 2018 06:18 nothingmuch wrote: As far as I can remember OG won two majors with that weak mid and weird ass carry. Yes they won a major or two, they also got dismantled at TI multiple times. Im sure if you ask them to replace winning a couple of Majors for a TI you know what there reply would be. God knows what happened today they looked absolutely awful in every game. The Immortal series alone they were terrible, should not be dropping a game there. Drafts seemed a bit wonky too, game 2 draft vs COL was just stupid, the game 2 draft vs Immortals was just questionable at best! They need to re address how they are drafting again. Really need to fix things fast as they now have to beat COL in a bo5 that is if they wake up and beat Immortals/Optic again, not very impressive from them considering this is a major qualifier! Also starts to question having two people sat in Denmark and not in US as well  | ||
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Gaial
United States313 Posts
Game 2 vs Immortals, EG clearly tried to force to issue too hard. Yes, they couldn't protect Arteezy but EG threw 5 bodies for a lane of rax twice, against a bounty hunter. Game 1 vs coL - A bad draft and EG trying out KotL and ES. It didn't work out this game but may in the future. I think PL was a bad pick. With PL you had 3 melee cores against a MK. Game 2 vs coL - Again with the Pugna. I guess they thought the magical burst would be good against Enchantress and DK, but when all was said and done, Pugna could only really lane against DK. I also think EG expected the tri lanes to go more evenly, but they got outplayed. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Plus did they just think the brewmaster was irrelevant? He has a 16 minute drums radiance because he had literal free farm! Today vs Immortals/Optic im hoping for a smooth 2-0 like we had before, the rumor of a patch today seems to increase my anxiety though, surely they won't patch today anything "major" changey to heroes? | ||
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
People are paying too much attention to kills these days -- "Things are looking really good for optic right now" -- As EG has a gold advantage and a Medusa feeling no pressure. Kills aren't as important as good farm. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Fear game 1 on Razor was beautiful and that Aegis snatch in game 2! Much better overall, position 4 puck was funny and plus it confuses the enemy team in drafting thinking is it going to be sumail offlane puck, mid sumail puck or position 4. The general tempo and drafts were much better, now tonight we have to beat COL in a bo5! | ||
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PoulsenB
Poland7735 Posts
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Damned627
Indonesia264 Posts
On February 15 2018 14:31 Masamune wrote: There's been a lineup with 1. Rtz 2. Sumail 3. Universe 4. Crit 5. Misery? Misery is a much much better drafter than Fear, it wouldn't be the same. And with that line up it was 1. Rtz 2. Sumail 3. Universe 4. Fear 5. Crit Fear was pos 5 back then, and the became pos 2, Sumail went to offlane, and Misery came to EG being the new 5 and captain. Having Fear as pos 2 instead of Sumail is the thing that they need to make RTZ shine, that guy shines more with more farm, and boy his farm efficiency is damn good. | ||
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