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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 09 2018 09:52 GMT
#3341
Yeah comfortable DAC qualifiers there, beat COL comfortably and made sure we confirmed ourselves as rank 1 NA meaning we should continue getting invites legitimately!

Not sure if we are going to be in the Dream League S9 qualifiers now, might give that a miss i don't know though as nothing has been announced. But they have a week off until those start over 2 days the 3 days before IEM Katowice. Does make alot of sense to potentially miss that tournament and then make sure you are ready 100% for IEM as the bracket EG got is insanely hard to get out of...
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 10 2018 13:02 GMT
#3342
Yeah confirmed EG not attempting to qualify for Dream League Season 9. So they don't play now until IEM major Feb 20th.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-10 15:02:36
February 10 2018 15:01 GMT
#3343
Epicenter qualifiers are in 2 days, e.g. decide to put effort into qualifying for a major rather than a minor (DL is a minor this time around).

(Wiki)EPICENTER/2018/North America
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-11 19:31:50
February 11 2018 19:29 GMT
#3344
Epicenter qualifiers randomly decided to happen then as they were not on the list on Liquipedia until like Saturday at best.

Also those groups are so stupidly unblanace and wtf EPICENTER not inviting the team who didn't lose a game until the grand finals of your last tournament? What a joke

Also i think we should just move EG to Europe! The qualification there is another level of easy Liquid Secret get invited so it leaves OG vs team likes Alliance/MansNotHot? Reject Alliance in Final Tribe, a random Cancel stack, Kinguin and Penta who just seem T3 and no more?
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 11 2018 20:15 GMT
#3345
EG aren't invited because they haven't done particularly well recently. Getting to the final of the previous tournament doesn't mean mean they get an auto-invite when the tournament was about a year ago. Plus they've changed roster.

Euro qualifiers are obviously at least as hard as NA. If they were so much easier, why do Euro qualifying teams have far more points than NA ones?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
February 11 2018 21:17 GMT
#3346
On February 12 2018 05:15 FuzzyJAM wrote:
EG aren't invited because they haven't done particularly well recently. Getting to the final of the previous tournament doesn't mean mean they get an auto-invite when the tournament was about a year ago. Plus they've changed roster.

Euro qualifiers are obviously at least as hard as NA. If they were so much easier, why do Euro qualifying teams have far more points than NA ones?


They don't. Outside of Liquid/Secret, the next highest is OG with 665 points and then Kinguin with 90 (tied with Immortals).

Point being, EG didn't get invited because the invites went out before Galaxy Battles and Genting where EG performed well in both.

@Pandemona: The upcoming events ticker is not always the best because it has a limit to what it can show. Then, when 1 event has 6 different headline events for each region (NA, EU, CN, SEA, SA, and CIS), it doesn't show very much
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
February 12 2018 00:27 GMT
#3347
At any rate, if anyone from NA gets moved to Europe it should be Optic. They have 3 European invaders; Evil Geniuses only have 2.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
February 12 2018 01:09 GMT
#3348
On February 12 2018 06:17 Gaial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 05:15 FuzzyJAM wrote:
EG aren't invited because they haven't done particularly well recently. Getting to the final of the previous tournament doesn't mean mean they get an auto-invite when the tournament was about a year ago. Plus they've changed roster.

Euro qualifiers are obviously at least as hard as NA. If they were so much easier, why do Euro qualifying teams have far more points than NA ones?


They don't. Outside of Liquid/Secret, the next highest is OG with 665 points and then Kinguin with 90 (tied with Immortals.)

You know OG is a team that is in the European qualifiers of almost every event, right?

Removing OG from consideration makes zero sense given that they're the very team that means qualifying from Europe would be harder for EG than qualifying from NA is.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Smashdotz
Profile Joined September 2014
Singapore14 Posts
February 12 2018 05:08 GMT
#3349
On February 12 2018 06:17 Gaial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 05:15 FuzzyJAM wrote:
EG aren't invited because they haven't done particularly well recently. Getting to the final of the previous tournament doesn't mean mean they get an auto-invite when the tournament was about a year ago. Plus they've changed roster.

Euro qualifiers are obviously at least as hard as NA. If they were so much easier, why do Euro qualifying teams have far more points than NA ones?


They don't. Outside of Liquid/Secret, the next highest is OG with 665 points and then Kinguin with 90 (tied with Immortals).

Point being, EG didn't get invited because the invites went out before Galaxy Battles and Genting where EG performed well in both.

@Pandemona: The upcoming events ticker is not always the best because it has a limit to what it can show. Then, when 1 event has 6 different headline events for each region (NA, EU, CN, SEA, SA, and CIS), it doesn't show very much



Last 3 invites revealed 4 hours ago. The fact that Navi got a direct invite over EG or even Mineski makes no sense to me. Seems to me that the 2 region (NA/SEA) have been overlooked and they are looking for crowd pleasers/popularity contest instead with the event taking place in Moswcow
Dudududu
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
February 12 2018 06:05 GMT
#3350
On February 12 2018 14:08 Smashdotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 06:17 Gaial wrote:
On February 12 2018 05:15 FuzzyJAM wrote:
EG aren't invited because they haven't done particularly well recently. Getting to the final of the previous tournament doesn't mean mean they get an auto-invite when the tournament was about a year ago. Plus they've changed roster.

Euro qualifiers are obviously at least as hard as NA. If they were so much easier, why do Euro qualifying teams have far more points than NA ones?


They don't. Outside of Liquid/Secret, the next highest is OG with 665 points and then Kinguin with 90 (tied with Immortals).

Point being, EG didn't get invited because the invites went out before Galaxy Battles and Genting where EG performed well in both.

@Pandemona: The upcoming events ticker is not always the best because it has a limit to what it can show. Then, when 1 event has 6 different headline events for each region (NA, EU, CN, SEA, SA, and CIS), it doesn't show very much



Last 3 invites revealed 4 hours ago. The fact that Navi got a direct invite over EG or even Mineski makes no sense to me. Seems to me that the 2 region (NA/SEA) have been overlooked and they are looking for crowd pleasers/popularity contest instead with the event taking place in Moswcow


Come on people, it is in Moscow logical that they invite home teams that are popular to draw in crowd and sponsors for event. Happens also in china tournaments. Think if they made a tournament in SA they invite more teams form there.
What is point of directe invite system if you are only allowed to use ranking, then Valve should replace direct invites with rankings. We also have to see SA teams in every tournament now, you can just as well complain about seeing them over EG.

I like EG and think they will qualify.
GO OG
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
February 12 2018 08:25 GMT
#3351
I agree...

You need to please the local fanbase - and not having Navi would not be an option for them.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-12 14:25:03
February 12 2018 11:35 GMT
#3352
NAVI and VP as direct invites though, that decreases the CIS qualifier to TeamSpirit/Empire so that means there will be 3 CIS teams in a MAJOR!

Anyway was just a bit of a rant as i thought inviting finalists from previous tournaments would make sense imo i don't know maybe it's just me.. xD

Also only 1 team in the NA qualifier seems very competitive too. The groups also so unbalanced its untrue, going to be a very tough qualifier imo. Tournament is also single elimination bracket and BO3 GSL group stage too.

On February 12 2018 06:17 Gaial wrote:

@Pandemona: The upcoming events ticker is not always the best because it has a limit to what it can show. Then, when 1 event has 6 different headline events for each region (NA, EU, CN, SEA, SA, and CIS), it doesn't show very much


Yeah i look on the schedule on Liquipedia;
(Wiki)Dota Pro Circuit/Schedule

Which i assume would have known these qualifiers before like Saturday xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Smashdotz
Profile Joined September 2014
Singapore14 Posts
February 12 2018 14:16 GMT
#3353
On February 12 2018 15:05 Sapaio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2018 14:08 Smashdotz wrote:
On February 12 2018 06:17 Gaial wrote:
On February 12 2018 05:15 FuzzyJAM wrote:
EG aren't invited because they haven't done particularly well recently. Getting to the final of the previous tournament doesn't mean mean they get an auto-invite when the tournament was about a year ago. Plus they've changed roster.

Euro qualifiers are obviously at least as hard as NA. If they were so much easier, why do Euro qualifying teams have far more points than NA ones?


They don't. Outside of Liquid/Secret, the next highest is OG with 665 points and then Kinguin with 90 (tied with Immortals).

Point being, EG didn't get invited because the invites went out before Galaxy Battles and Genting where EG performed well in both.

@Pandemona: The upcoming events ticker is not always the best because it has a limit to what it can show. Then, when 1 event has 6 different headline events for each region (NA, EU, CN, SEA, SA, and CIS), it doesn't show very much



Last 3 invites revealed 4 hours ago. The fact that Navi got a direct invite over EG or even Mineski makes no sense to me. Seems to me that the 2 region (NA/SEA) have been overlooked and they are looking for crowd pleasers/popularity contest instead with the event taking place in Moswcow


Come on people, it is in Moscow logical that they invite home teams that are popular to draw in crowd and sponsors for event. Happens also in china tournaments. Think if they made a tournament in SA they invite more teams form there.
What is point of directe invite system if you are only allowed to use ranking, then Valve should replace direct invites with rankings. We also have to see SA teams in every tournament now, you can just as well complain about seeing them over EG.

I like EG and think they will qualify.


Yes I agree with the local fan base issue and sponsors to draw in crowd. But making a comparison of SA teams to Tier 1.5 EG/Mineski is beyond me. Much less Navi which has just gone through a shuffle whose squad strength is unknown. At least the China invites look decent on paper from the previous installments. Additionally Epicentre is a Major and not a Minor. Not something you would just give invites to freely.

However what's has happened is gone and decided, nothing much can be done and hopefully the teams that deserve to be there will make it and may the best team win.
Dudududu
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
February 12 2018 16:09 GMT
#3354
What I mean is that the tournament format now is so that we have to have at least one team from each region including SA. In my opinion SA are below average and worse than Navi, so if you someone complain that a lesser team like Navi get direct invite over EG, i just wonder why the same person doesn't complain about SA teams at tournaments.
GO OG
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-12 19:51:49
February 12 2018 19:38 GMT
#3355
Good god BULBA LEGEND is standing in for Misery in todays qualifier which is the whole group stage! EEEK!

Wow Game 1, Bulba did good :D will watch vods for the rest. #BLEEDBLUE!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
February 12 2018 22:11 GMT
#3356
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Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
February 12 2018 22:58 GMT
#3357
Bulba mvp of the day after 3 games... letts see if we can close it out 2 - 0 against Optic! Go!!
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
February 12 2018 23:32 GMT
#3358
Well that was fast.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-13 09:59:15
February 13 2018 09:12 GMT
#3359
Yeah this is clearly putting EG on top so far. Standin Bulba god and still 4-0 the group extremely comfortably.

Also the games vs Optic, what on earth PPD doing giving Fear his Lycan? He left it all the way through the draft and he paid so heavily for it. Game 2 sumail mid Enigma xD top quality!
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7758 Posts
February 13 2018 10:44 GMT
#3360
The games against the PPD stack were very satisfying to watch, not gonna lie

Also: LULBA still a god xD
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