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Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
February 19 2018 15:00 GMT
#3401
On February 19 2018 19:55 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2018 03:50 Gaial wrote:
I don't know how much ping was a factor in these games, but coL has simply been better in the past 3 days.

I think the biggest problem for EG getting 2nd is, unless they do very well in Katowice, they just lost their auto-invite

Yeah the point was more, Cr1t, Misery and Rtc are waking up say 10am there time, playing dota solo, not talking about the upcoming game and then joining discord/teamspeak around 3/4 hours later to practice/talk about the game with Sumail/Fear etc. If they are in the same house like they should be if they respected the qualifier a bit more then when they all wake up at 10am they are talking from minute one about the upcoming game and what not. It is just a different mentality, plus Misery in the Sven game had connection issues too. I just thought it was a bit "selfish" from the players perspective to really want a what has been 2 weeks break since the last tournament even though they have a brand new roster lol.

I couldnt agree more... We dont know every reason for all theier desitions, but its strange taking a "break" right after making a new roster. They should be in a team house for atleast a couple of months. When they all understand eachother, strategies, hero pools and the way they want to play dota., that is when you can take a break.


“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
February 19 2018 16:49 GMT
#3402
On February 19 2018 19:55 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2018 03:50 Gaial wrote:
I don't know how much ping was a factor in these games, but coL has simply been better in the past 3 days.

I think the biggest problem for EG getting 2nd is, unless they do very well in Katowice, they just lost their auto-invite

Yeah the point was more, Cr1t, Misery and Rtc are waking up say 10am there time, playing dota solo, not talking about the upcoming game and then joining discord/teamspeak around 3/4 hours later to practice/talk about the game with Sumail/Fear etc. If they are in the same house like they should be if they respected the qualifier a bit more then when they all wake up at 10am they are talking from minute one about the upcoming game and what not. It is just a different mentality, plus Misery in the Sven game had connection issues too. I just thought it was a bit "selfish" from the players perspective to really want a what has been 2 weeks break since the last tournament even though they have a brand new roster lol.

this is a wild assumption, we can't know how they act outside of the games and its unfair to say crit misery and rtz don't have the right mentality. I do agree they would fare better bootcamping together.
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
February 20 2018 01:45 GMT
#3403
New tournament, new day.

I like EG's chances IF they can win the BO1 against LGD. I like EG's chances against Secret the most (out of Liquid, Secret, Newbee) since captain's draft. Call it what you will but EG pushed Secret to the edge in that series and EG has only been better (last 5 days excluding).

However, BO1s can be messy like the last ESL where EG lost to Navi
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7748 Posts
February 20 2018 08:43 GMT
#3404
I'd like for them to occasionally do some classic strats like Io-Tiny or a Drow lineup, just to keep opponents on their toes.

I hope they do well. Bleed Blue!
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 08:54:31
February 20 2018 08:51 GMT
#3405
On February 20 2018 01:49 Pontual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2018 19:55 Pandemona wrote:
On February 18 2018 03:50 Gaial wrote:
I don't know how much ping was a factor in these games, but coL has simply been better in the past 3 days.

I think the biggest problem for EG getting 2nd is, unless they do very well in Katowice, they just lost their auto-invite

Yeah the point was more, Cr1t, Misery and Rtc are waking up say 10am there time, playing dota solo, not talking about the upcoming game and then joining discord/teamspeak around 3/4 hours later to practice/talk about the game with Sumail/Fear etc. If they are in the same house like they should be if they respected the qualifier a bit more then when they all wake up at 10am they are talking from minute one about the upcoming game and what not. It is just a different mentality, plus Misery in the Sven game had connection issues too. I just thought it was a bit "selfish" from the players perspective to really want a what has been 2 weeks break since the last tournament even though they have a brand new roster lol.

this is a wild assumption, we can't know how they act outside of the games and its unfair to say crit misery and rtz don't have the right mentality. I do agree they would fare better bootcamping together.

I am not attacking there mentality Rtc for sure is a winner mentally he lives and breathes the game, im just saying in a team house you wake up, talk to eachother from minute one, when you are not all together you only talk to eachother when you go on teamspeak which might not be until 1 hour before the series start. Just thinking they made a huge oversight in the qualifiers due to wanting to go back home and not sacrifice a bit. Like Atoissen reiterated, they are a new team they should be bootcamping and getting used to eachother alot, bulba and misery should be inseparable talking about drafts and playstyle so they are on the same page etc. Just my rant because of the way they lost to COL xD


As said, new day new tournament! I agree with Poulsen there actually, try and IO Tiny offlane, with Fear on a pusher or something that could be good for us to use our triple core line up with Sumail, or Rtc can play that too.

Yeah if EG can get past this bo1 with LGD they could be in a good position to try and make it to the knock out rounds, i want us to get points so badly! Going to be hard though, today is a big day. Chelsea vs Barca this evening too and EG vs LGD in Dota, #BLEEDBLUE!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
nothingmuch
Profile Joined March 2015
448 Posts
February 20 2018 11:40 GMT
#3406
On February 20 2018 17:43 PoulsenB wrote:
I'd like for them to occasionally do some classic strats like Io-Tiny or a Drow lineup, just to keep opponents on their toes.

I hope they do well. Bleed Blue!


Now I'm not watching every pro game happening but it's been ages since I last saw a Drow game, let alone one where Drow won. Is that even still a thing?
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
February 20 2018 15:12 GMT
#3407
Very nice games from EG....... Drama inc?
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
ironcell
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1127 Posts
February 20 2018 16:54 GMT
#3408
On February 21 2018 00:12 MirageTaN wrote:
Very nice games from EG....... Drama inc?


Looks more like EG day 1 for me. They still need time and are being a bit cocky (qualifiers lul) tomorrow they are gonna be rested and more sober. Lets wait.
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
February 20 2018 17:45 GMT
#3409
On February 21 2018 00:12 MirageTaN wrote:
Very nice games from EG....... Drama inc?


only if they lose against Infamous
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 21 2018 08:37 GMT
#3410
Yeah they lost a bo1 due to a bad draft to LGD only thing im blaming for that loss is the idiot tournament. I mean look at Newbee losing to Kinguin.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
February 21 2018 09:40 GMT
#3411
Still funny to see sumail cancel his epi accidentally at the end when they were defending bot.
Not that they would have held. But withoiut epi it wsnt a 5% chance but 0%
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
February 21 2018 13:51 GMT
#3412
On February 21 2018 17:37 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah they lost a bo1 due to a bad draft to LGD only thing im blaming for that loss is the idiot tournament. I mean look at Newbee losing to Kinguin.


What about Fear losing his lane 1v1? It was already lost by the time that 6 min gank came around and they took the mid T1.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 21 2018 14:22 GMT
#3413
Just look at today's drafts compared to yesterday. Minus game 2 draft which was a bit wonky too picking Chen last into a Gyro already and in the end vs TA too.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
February 21 2018 20:17 GMT
#3414
Draft wasn't bad. LGD capitalized on winning a lane that should've went even. Also, EG brought numbers top in a defense and lost (Arteezy's rotation). Not draft.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7748 Posts
February 22 2018 13:00 GMT
#3415
Good games and drafts today from the bois, and the KotL curse was finally broken haha Next up is one of the Chinese teams, if EG play it right they should win this I feel, especially with newbee not looking that hot this tournament.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 22 2018 13:08 GMT
#3416
Hope so, going to be tough, hopefully they do alot of studying so maybe they can find some draft weakness' to exploit like i think they did with Kinguin today.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
February 22 2018 22:32 GMT
#3417
I'm worried about Sccc vs Fear and Fear getting dominated middle.

Good news is Newbee looked very beatable today vs LGD.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 23 2018 08:47 GMT
#3418
The draw and bracket is so in EG favour if they can get past Newbee, so many points to be won

If they beat Newbee they go into bottom half vs Virtus Pro our good Russian friends for points. Then it's vs Fnatic for place in grand final....surely that is the best dream bracket they could have asked for? We need these points so badly and could get some good PR

Newbee is so big i hope they can do it.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
its_a_me
Profile Joined June 2016
Austria612 Posts
February 23 2018 09:02 GMT
#3419
Today we you can see if they are worth their salt.
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
February 23 2018 09:08 GMT
#3420
On February 23 2018 07:32 Gaial wrote:
I'm worried about Sccc vs Fear and Fear getting dominated middle.

Good news is Newbee looked very beatable today vs LGD.


They still have the option to send Sumail or rtz mid I suppose.

Or do it like Liquid and just give Fear some easy ass hero like Matu.
No one can screw up a viper mid
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