EPTEvil Geniuses Discussion - Page 173
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VvvV1251
Algeria142 Posts
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Gaial
United States313 Posts
https://cybersport.com/post/arteezy-interview-esl-katowice-major More EG in ~3 days! | ||
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PoulsenB
Poland7710 Posts
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
if EG reaches the next level of cohesion they are going to be absurdly hard to beat. That 2-0 vs Newbee showed some of the potential, just absolute dominance by a team that understands exactly what they want to do and how to do it | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
The next tournament is very annoying for me in terms of schedule/tournament system. When it was announced it was a Swiss System i thought oh wow this is going to be great! Then i learn its a full BO1 swiss system...wow. Top 8 are determined solely by a BO1 swiss system... Which after watching the BO1s in the ESL events only, anyone can beat anyone and it screws the result up. So i have no idea and expect huge shocks in this tournament now. Just hoping EG get some favorable ties. | ||
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Gaial
United States313 Posts
On March 01 2018 17:54 Pandemona wrote: Yeah awesome work Torte, great questions too and Rtc gave some good answers, nice work :D The next tournament is very annoying for me in terms of schedule/tournament system. When it was announced it was a Swiss System i thought oh wow this is going to be great! Then i learn its a full BO1 swiss system...wow. Top 8 are determined solely by a BO1 swiss system... Which after watching the BO1s in the ESL events only, anyone can beat anyone and it screws the result up. So i have no idea and expect huge shocks in this tournament now. Just hoping EG get some favorable ties. Yes, but it's 5 BO1s, and you only play teams with the same WL as you. That's the power of the Swiss format. It's the fairest way to determine seeding - far better than a random drawing of groups. I think all you need to do is win 3 BO1s to advance. EG should do this when a quarter of the field is paiN, Vega, coL | ||
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
On March 01 2018 22:07 Gaial wrote: Yes, but it's 5 BO1s, and you only play teams with the same WL as you. That's the power of the Swiss format. It's the fairest way to determine seeding - far better than a random drawing of groups. I think all you need to do is win 3 BO1s to advance. EG should do this when a quarter of the field is paiN, Vega, coL CSGO uses this system all the time. Going x-3 means you're out, but getting 3 wins somewhere along the line means you'll advance to the playoffs. I like this better than the Group A-Group B double elimination format. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On March 02 2018 02:45 M.S.Bismarck wrote: CSGO uses this system all the time. Going x-3 means you're out, but getting 3 wins somewhere along the line means you'll advance to the playoffs. I like this better than the Group A-Group B double elimination format. I think a "BO1" (16 rounds) in CSGO is a little more reliable than in Dota (1 game). However, Swiss bo1 is OK in dota I think. 1 bo1 is a little random since off-day + off-game, OK you lost. With 5 games, if you have a few off-days and off-games in a row, even bo1, you probably don't deserve to move forward. The next step would be swiss bo3, of course this is more reliable but the number of games explodes. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
The following tournament (Starladder) did it a properly though a huge 16 team BO3 swiss group stage which was awesome, everyone liked that tournament :D BO1 is so hard and the issue becomes seeding after wards. You seed for the first round but after that its a lottery of winners vs winners and losers vs losers. Take ESL first round as an example and loser games you could have had Newbee vs EG loser goes 0/2 and is one bo1 away from elimination. Or the winners game could have been Fnatic vs Kinguin winner is 1 bo1 away from qualifying etc. All comes down to draw which is why even in the CSGO version they normally have 1st round bo1, then bo3 afterwards. We shall see, i just hope EG get a bit lucky in who they play vs! We also seem to never win BO1 games xD | ||
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Gaial
United States313 Posts
I'm interested if we'll ever see a WCS style format, except top 3 advance, and bottom team is eliminated (instead of 2+2). 4 groups of 4 -> 3 groups of 4 -> 2 groups of 4 -> 8 team playoff + loser bracket because it's dota | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
Anyway i'll stop my whining, just looking forward to a nice tourney on a new patch!!! Wonder what Rtc has discovered in 7.10 atm | ||
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Silent_Marine
Vietnam281 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
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PoulsenB
Poland7710 Posts
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nothingmuch
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
Expecting some Morph, with mind games around support picks like Io, Kotl, ET and AA. Letts see if its Rtz or Miracle on the morph today  | ||
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spacek
United States213 Posts
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
Looked a bit grim in the beginning there, and Fear has probably never died so many times in one game, but I had a good feeling today, happy the boys managed to get the W here | ||
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PoulsenB
Poland7710 Posts
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