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Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
December 11 2018 20:40 GMT
#197821
austerity, what a nightmare
https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2018 20:46 GMT
#197822
On December 12 2018 05:40 2009 wrote:
austerity, what a nightmare

Austerity is cool and all, but have you tried taxing the rich to pay for things? Because let me tell you, we did it in the 1950s through the 1960s and it was fucking awesome. We built so much cool shit and went to the mother fucking moon.

So I know the EU is high on this Austerity thing, but ya all should give taxing the rich a chance. It will change your world.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
December 11 2018 20:55 GMT
#197823
Canada has a 50% tax rate at the top bracket and we're not going to the moon
© Current year.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 11 2018 20:57 GMT
#197824
The top US tax rate was like 90% when we went to the moon lol
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2018 21:05 GMT
#197825
People have no idea how awesome our tax system was in the 1960s. Economy trucking at 5% growth, just building shit all the time. Cities expanding in so many ways that white people ran away to the suburbs. Trips to the Moon. Highways across America. International airports in every major city of varying quality.

And then someone convinced everyone that rich people needed that money to make more jobs, for reasons. And if we gave the money to the rich people, the money would travel down to middle class people and we all would get rich together. And for some reason everyone fell for it for like 40 years. It is such an amazingly terrible argument that even folks in the EU have started using it. And if we talk about making rich people pay more, we are big mean people for targeting them.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
December 11 2018 21:06 GMT
#197826
top tax bracket should be 90% except for me (I should not pay taxes)
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 11 2018 21:10 GMT
#197827
Adjust the upton Sinclair tax for inflation and use that
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2018 21:12 GMT
#197828
I hear we had rich people in the 1960s and 1970s, so I'm sure it will work out. If you are getting Bezos will still be worth billions and make millions per day.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
December 11 2018 21:17 GMT
#197829
I've just watched free solo and that shit is rad.

Alex Honnold is what happens when you don't teach your child how to interact with others and what empathy is, but it has a thoroughly kind personality.

Fuck that's so big what he did.
passive quaranstream fan
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 11 2018 21:27 GMT
#197830
On December 12 2018 06:05 Plansix wrote:
People have no idea how awesome our tax system was in the 1960s

to be fair most of us didnt grow up during...
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2018 21:31 GMT
#197831
On December 12 2018 06:27 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2018 06:05 Plansix wrote:
People have no idea how awesome our tax system was in the 1960s

to be fair most of us didnt grow up during...

I know this is a shot at me being old, but I wasn’t alive then either. Yet somehow I gained this knowledge about history. Somehow……..
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 11 2018 21:35 GMT
#197832
Watching Trump and Pelosi get into a televised shouting match made me feel like I was living in Britain
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 11 2018 21:40 GMT
#197833
On December 12 2018 05:46 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2018 05:40 2009 wrote:
austerity, what a nightmare

Austerity is cool and all, but have you tried taxing the rich to pay for things? Because let me tell you, we did it in the 1950s through the 1960s and it was fucking awesome. We built so much cool shit and went to the mother fucking moon.

So I know the EU is high on this Austerity thing, but ya all should give taxing the rich a chance. It will change your world.

The issue is that at some point, taxing more will bring you less money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2018 21:42 GMT
#197834
Trump owned himself. He invited two of these most veteran politicians in the US to the Oval, attempted to ambush them with TV cameras and got dunked on hard. My favorite part is when he tries to imply that Pelosi is having some sort of problem and she responds “Do not characterize the strength I bring to this meeting.” She goes full diva and tells him not to talk about her, her every existence in the room speaks for itself.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
December 11 2018 21:42 GMT
#197835
But are we anywhere close to that point as it was pictured above?
passive quaranstream fan
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2018 21:48 GMT
#197836
On December 12 2018 06:40 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2018 05:46 Plansix wrote:
On December 12 2018 05:40 2009 wrote:
austerity, what a nightmare

Austerity is cool and all, but have you tried taxing the rich to pay for things? Because let me tell you, we did it in the 1950s through the 1960s and it was fucking awesome. We built so much cool shit and went to the mother fucking moon.

So I know the EU is high on this Austerity thing, but ya all should give taxing the rich a chance. It will change your world.

The issue is that at some point, taxing more will bring you less money.

So like stop when that starts to happen and pull it in a bit? It isn’t like you folks haven’t figured this shit out before.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-11 22:14:39
December 11 2018 21:59 GMT
#197837
With all the tax dodgers present in the ultra-wealthy, I wonder whether increasing the tax rate will really do as much as we'd like to think.

On December 12 2018 07:07 Plansix wrote:
Tax avoidance is a problem that can be solved by rigorous enforcement of the system. In the US the conservative House of Representatives went after the IRS for political bias, but in reality they just wanted an excuse to make that agency scared of enforcing tax law. And cutting funding as well.

I know this because we deal with taxable income all the time. All settlements we pay out are taxable. People are bad about claiming those funds during tax season. 10 years ago the turn around on someone failing to claim those funds and calling me to bitch about it was 1 year. In the year of our lord 2018 it is now 4-5 years before they get hit.

So when politicians say “It is hard because people just avoid paying taxes on income and that is hard to stop,” my first thought is that they likely are not trying that hard to stop them. Or they are actively harming the agency with that job because whoever got them elected wants them to.

This article in The Atlantic just came out today which matches with what you were saying. It's a concerted effort to hollow out and defang the institutions that would enforce it.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 11 2018 22:07 GMT
#197838
Tax avoidance is a problem that can be solved by rigorous enforcement of the system. In the US the conservative House of Representatives went after the IRS for political bias, but in reality they just wanted an excuse to make that agency scared of enforcing tax law. And cutting funding as well.

I know this because we deal with taxable income all the time. All settlements we pay out are taxable. People are bad about claiming those funds during tax season. 10 years ago the turn around on someone failing to claim those funds and calling me to bitch about it was 1 year. In the year of our lord 2018 it is now 4-5 years before they get hit.

So when politicians say “It is hard because people just avoid paying taxes on income and that is hard to stop,” my first thought is that they likely are not trying that hard to stop them. Or they are actively harming the agency with that job because whoever got them elected wants them to.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
December 11 2018 22:54 GMT
#197839
isn't tax avoidance legal like contributing to 401k and getting tax returns. Evasion is the illegal one
© Current year.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 11 2018 23:34 GMT
#197840
This is the weirdest thing I've read in at least 5 years
https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/social-media/2017/02/furred-reich-truth-about-nazi-furries-and-alt-right
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