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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
September 20 2018 23:57 GMT
#195741
On September 21 2018 08:39 Nevuk wrote:
It's a 1/7 improvement by most benchmarks (~15%). Not really a huge change. There's that random technology it adds that handles lighting really well, but if it only exists on the most bleeding edge graphics cards I doubt we'll see much of it for at least a couple years.

Does have lower power and heat as well. (Mainly seems useless if you aren't really into playing at 2160p or above)


On average the RTX 2080 is only 1% faster than a 1080Ti ... benchmark on 35 titles

Smile, tomorrow will be worse
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
September 21 2018 01:50 GMT
#195742
On September 20 2018 04:17 Comeh wrote:
so date with ballerina went super well last night and i super like this girl and she moves to ireland in 3 months so i can't catch feelings but i know myself and im gonna catch feelings and its gonna be bad

so thats my life atm

date date date date date
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
September 21 2018 06:34 GMT
#195743
On September 21 2018 08:39 Nevuk wrote:
It's a 1/7 improvement by most benchmarks (~15%). Not really a huge change. There's that random technology it adds that handles lighting really well, but if it only exists on the most bleeding edge graphics cards I doubt we'll see much of it for at least a couple years.

Does have lower power and heat as well. (Mainly seems useless if you aren't really into playing at 2160p or above)

I think you underestimate Nvidias marketing team. They'll just keep sending developers to game studios to make sure every AAA release has their new technology. Just like they did with Physx in the past.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-21 07:24:57
September 21 2018 07:23 GMT
#195744
you buy an early adopter black box.
I currently don't have a graphics card and will probably not pick up a 1080TI but rather the equally powerful 2080 at some point in spring next year.
Unless i get a deal for a basically factory new 1080TI below or around 500€.

I really want to play AC:Odyssey with RTX raytracing though.


and tbh these current benchmarks are mostly bullshit because they compare a whopping 1080TI FE with the 2080TI/non-TI FE. Apples and Pears.
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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
September 21 2018 08:40 GMT
#195745
On September 21 2018 16:23 Artisreal wrote:
you buy an early adopter black box.
I currently don't have a graphics card and will probably not pick up a 1080TI but rather the equally powerful 2080 at some point in spring next year.
Unless i get a deal for a basically factory new 1080TI below or around 500€.

I really want to play AC:Odyssey with RTX raytracing though.


Picking up a RTX 2080 at this time is a gamble, paying 200 euro (or even more if you go with a used 1080Ti) premium on features that might or might not work, isn't a very good idea.

RT is a cool technology, no one is denying that, but I think it will take a lot more tensor cores to run games at good FPS. DLSS on the other hand might be the real game changer, it has great potential, so Im more excited for that rather than for RT, at least in the near future. RT will probably be more attractive in 3-4 years.


On September 21 2018 16:23 Artisreal wrote:
and tbh these current benchmarks are mostly bullshit because they compare a whopping 1080TI FE with the 2080TI/non-TI FE. Apples and Pears.



Im not sure what you're saying here how are current benchmarks bullshit?

On September 21 2018 15:34 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2018 08:39 Nevuk wrote:
It's a 1/7 improvement by most benchmarks (~15%). Not really a huge change. There's that random technology it adds that handles lighting really well, but if it only exists on the most bleeding edge graphics cards I doubt we'll see much of it for at least a couple years.

Does have lower power and heat as well. (Mainly seems useless if you aren't really into playing at 2160p or above)

I think you underestimate Nvidias marketing team. They'll just keep sending developers to game studios to make sure every AAA release has their new technology. Just like they did with Physx in the past.


Yet PhysiX is still kinda crap to this day and not a technology that drives sales of Nvidia GPU's. Same as HairWorks and other proprietary Nvidia technologies, they are largely irrelevant.

Besides, the upcoming PS5 will have AMD Navi GPUs in it, Xbox has an AMD GPU in it and the console market is roughly 50% of the gaming market, so I seriously doubt studios will develop games with RTX if 50% of their market (or 100% in the case of console exclusives) cant use it. Sure we might get some PC exclusives, but to think that this technology will catch on and become the norm, at least in the next 5 years is rather silly.

DLSS might be a game changer, but it depends on a lot of things to be widely used.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
September 21 2018 09:24 GMT
#195746
No publication I read had a custom gtx 1080 TI overclocked to compare to the overclocked 2080ti.
That's why the benchmarks are iffy.

I don't want a thoroughly used graphics card at the moment. That's why the premium of 200 or so bucks for a newer card would be OK for me.
If I find a cheap used 1080ti though... Or a bargain new one... That's another story.
But comparing factory new I'd be willing to spend 750 ish on a good rtx 2080. Though the little of what I've heard about custom 2080s is not overwhelming yet.
passive quaranstream fan
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-21 10:04:04
September 21 2018 10:02 GMT
#195747
The difference between different 1080Ti's is very small. The premium you're paying with custom cards is usually in the design, noise and thermals. Check out any video of 1080Ti comparisons and you will see +/- 5% difference at best. That's nothing, so the current benchmarks, especially the one from Hardware Unboxed is valid because they did a complete benchmark of stock speed and OC speeds. There's nothing iffy about current benchmarks.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-21 10:15:30
September 21 2018 10:15 GMT
#195748
I'll have a look at the one you mentioned, thanks.
passive quaranstream fan
matico652
Profile Joined September 2018
1 Post
Last Edited: 2018-09-21 12:33:43
September 21 2018 12:33 GMT
#195749
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
September 21 2018 15:44 GMT
#195750
Feels like OTGD is attacked by bots more than usual lately.

Also I made some madeleines. https://imgur.com/a/wkvzsqp
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-21 16:45:34
September 21 2018 16:45 GMT
#195751
Happy Friday folks. I just wanted to share this

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cody-wilson-man-center-of-3d-printed-gun-dispute-charged-child-sex-assault-today-2018-09-19/

The guy trying to sell 3D printed guns is, in fact, a staggering moron and creeper.

Also Destiny 2: Forsaken is good, clean, wholesome Undead Space Wizard fun.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
September 21 2018 16:45 GMT
#195752
New GPU, who diss?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
September 21 2018 16:48 GMT
#195753
On September 22 2018 01:45 Slomo wrote:
New GPU, who diss?

didya get one?
passive quaranstream fan
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
September 21 2018 17:54 GMT
#195754
On September 22 2018 01:48 Artisreal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2018 01:45 Slomo wrote:
New GPU, who diss?

didya get one?

Got a used GTX 970 for 100€. If it doesnt break down it will last me until 2077 for Cyberpunk.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
September 21 2018 18:41 GMT
#195755
2080ti is 1600 and 1080ti can be found for 900 here
yea not worth

1080ti's are the same price i paid for last year lol
© Current year.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
September 21 2018 19:26 GMT
#195756
Yeah they have recovered from the crypto hype but only to levels from 12-18 months ago lol

I'm waiting till Christmas or spring with my decision.
passive quaranstream fan
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-21 20:08:04
September 21 2018 20:07 GMT
#195757
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/327085/Report_The_Walking_Dead_developer_Telltale_Games_closing_down.php

Telltale is closing I guess.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
September 21 2018 20:20 GMT
#195758
the best thing about the 20XX cards is that it ought to let me get a 1080 on the cheap
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 21 2018 20:43 GMT
#195759
On September 22 2018 05:07 PassiveAce wrote:
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/327085/Report_The_Walking_Dead_developer_Telltale_Games_closing_down.php

Telltale is closing I guess.

Only 25 staff left to complete walking dead. But yeah, that studio just suffered from years of mismanagement and never recovered.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 21 2018 20:49 GMT
#195760
On September 22 2018 05:20 tehh4ck3r wrote:
the best thing about the 20XX cards is that it ought to let me get a 1080 on the cheap

You say that but they priced the 2080 at more dollars-per-performance than the 1080ti and down, so there's literally no reason for them to reduce prices on 1080ti and below.
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