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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12164 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-24 20:55:35
April 24 2018 20:50 GMT
#190121
On April 25 2018 05:46 Artisreal wrote:
Definitely go for the grind or figure out how to improve until then.
The better you are the more intricate things you can learn there which possibly help you get even further. Even if you take a break you'll have the knowledge to improve on your own.

Kinda like I know what I should be practising to become a better drummer. I just don't manage to fit in practice time in my daily life since for ever.


Ah well, guess I'll do two solo ranked games a day after work and ~8 a day or something on weekends. Seems reasonable to me without having to force the games too much. If I play more than that then I enjoyed it more than expected and that is fine. If grinding mmr I should start with an unranked, bot or something to warm up as well.

On April 25 2018 05:38 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
e. just have waga teach you techies and enjoy free mmr and free entry into pro scene, o wait last I checked waga couldn't make it as a pro so just enjoy free mmr and low prio tekis scum life


Maybe I should change my description of what I want to train at from offlane (since I mostly do pos 5 currently and want to branch out) to techies. All roles, how to techies.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2834 Posts
April 24 2018 21:30 GMT
#190122
On April 25 2018 03:11 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
e. I've never spoken to people smarter or more humble than me.


Hey man I recognize the conceit in my own statement. I'm not Drumpf-level self proclaimed supergenius, but I've waged debate with people way more educated than myself and claimed ground.

Also been dead wrong about plenty of shit but hey thats how i learn.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 24 2018 21:54 GMT
#190123
On April 25 2018 06:30 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2018 03:11 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
e. I've never spoken to people smarter or more humble than me.


Hey man I recognize the conceit in my own statement. I'm not Drumpf-level self proclaimed supergenius, but I've waged debate with people way more educated than myself and claimed ground.

Also been dead wrong about plenty of shit but hey thats how i learn.


Anybody who casually brings up their intelligence is probably overcompensating for something. It's one of the things that causes depression and anxiety. Most of these people have an image of their own capabilities/intelligence in their mind but when reality doesn't seem to mirror that there is a feeling of inadequacy. Normally therapy will address this but it's very difficult because the individual has a ingrained sense of self importance and arrogance that blocks real progress. I read about this in some medical papers a months back and thought it was really interesting. One of the excercises to improve the condition had the patients reduce their excessive pride in rank and make a conscious effort to value all knowledge, not just the knowledge they gave value to i.e. try to branch out and develop new hobbies or interests. The act of trying to learn about something your brain knows you are completely awful at seems to help alleviate some of the anxiety and develop new neural pathways.
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
April 24 2018 22:04 GMT
#190124
na I was being serious d00d

I think the whole concept of intelligence is skewed since people look at successful and famous people and all that.
Chasing personal success and fame isn't even smart to me and I would say modern life favours those with sociopathic and egotistical tendencies more than it favours those who are simply smart.

Humility is just fucking pointless though, it's just another aspect of the slave mentality drones are imprinted with.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
April 24 2018 23:01 GMT
#190125
On April 24 2018 22:22 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2018 15:55 CorsairHero wrote:
overwatch comp is fucking cancer


You would think people would be lot less of a tool since it's just sort off a casual game. Turns out alot of them actually the game seriously

It's just that at the end of the comp season, its difficult to rank up cause the people that already secured their rank for the season don't care how much they drop and are willing to throw.
© Current year.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
April 24 2018 23:11 GMT
#190126
Has Blizzard been informed that such a system is in fact of the mentally handicapped variety?
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 25 2018 00:54 GMT
#190127
I'm actually convinced that macos is actually less usable for business users than windows is

none of the shortcuts make sense, multitasking is awful, window vs app management is pretty bad, some of the typing shortcuts (delete, end, & home especially, along with quick text selection) are stupid

the underlying parts are amazing though
feels good having native unix
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2834 Posts
April 25 2018 02:47 GMT
#190128
On April 25 2018 06:54 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2018 06:30 Fleetfeet wrote:
On April 25 2018 03:11 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
e. I've never spoken to people smarter or more humble than me.


Hey man I recognize the conceit in my own statement. I'm not Drumpf-level self proclaimed supergenius, but I've waged debate with people way more educated than myself and claimed ground.

Also been dead wrong about plenty of shit but hey thats how i learn.


Anybody who casually brings up their intelligence is probably overcompensating for something. It's one of the things that causes depression and anxiety. Most of these people have an image of their own capabilities/intelligence in their mind but when reality doesn't seem to mirror that there is a feeling of inadequacy. Normally therapy will address this but it's very difficult because the individual has a ingrained sense of self importance and arrogance that blocks real progress. I read about this in some medical papers a months back and thought it was really interesting. One of the excercises to improve the condition had the patients reduce their excessive pride in rank and make a conscious effort to value all knowledge, not just the knowledge they gave value to i.e. try to branch out and develop new hobbies or interests. The act of trying to learn about something your brain knows you are completely awful at seems to help alleviate some of the anxiety and develop new neural pathways.


Though this is tangentially interesting, this is pretty much armchair psych. By all means, if you ever recognize an actual criticism, please let me know! And that's genuine, not just internets dickwaving.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-25 04:49:50
April 25 2018 04:44 GMT
#190129
On April 25 2018 11:47 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2018 06:54 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On April 25 2018 06:30 Fleetfeet wrote:
On April 25 2018 03:11 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
e. I've never spoken to people smarter or more humble than me.


Hey man I recognize the conceit in my own statement. I'm not Drumpf-level self proclaimed supergenius, but I've waged debate with people way more educated than myself and claimed ground.

Also been dead wrong about plenty of shit but hey thats how i learn.


Anybody who casually brings up their intelligence is probably overcompensating for something. It's one of the things that causes depression and anxiety. Most of these people have an image of their own capabilities/intelligence in their mind but when reality doesn't seem to mirror that there is a feeling of inadequacy. Normally therapy will address this but it's very difficult because the individual has a ingrained sense of self importance and arrogance that blocks real progress. I read about this in some medical papers a months back and thought it was really interesting. One of the excercises to improve the condition had the patients reduce their excessive pride in rank and make a conscious effort to value all knowledge, not just the knowledge they gave value to i.e. try to branch out and develop new hobbies or interests. The act of trying to learn about something your brain knows you are completely awful at seems to help alleviate some of the anxiety and develop new neural pathways.


Though this is tangentially interesting, this is pretty much armchair psych. By all means, if you ever recognize an actual criticism, please let me know! And that's genuine, not just internets dickwaving.


I'm not a licensed psychiatrist but when you spend the better part of a decade buried in medicine you are bound to read a couple of papers. You obviously know yourself better than anyone else so it's pointless to make conjectures about what you might be facing. I simply made an observation based on my everyday experiences based on some shit i've read along the way. You might truly be smarter than most everyone you interact with everyday. I don't doubt that. The average person is not very smart and lacks the drive to improve themselves so that does give you great odds. Another thing to note is that education does not always make someone smart. Both my parents have doctorates but ask them a question about something else and you wonder how they manage to make coffee without burning down the house. I have a pet theory that the programs that they went through broke them but that isn't really important.
High Risk Low Reward
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-25 06:17:26
April 25 2018 06:17 GMT
#190130
Accusing hackers of manipulating your blog on the wayback machine has to go up there as the dumbest move I've seen a public official make in the past few months (which is impressive, as there have been some doozies)
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
April 25 2018 06:33 GMT
#190131
On April 25 2018 13:44 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2018 11:47 Fleetfeet wrote:
On April 25 2018 06:54 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On April 25 2018 06:30 Fleetfeet wrote:
On April 25 2018 03:11 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
e. I've never spoken to people smarter or more humble than me.


Hey man I recognize the conceit in my own statement. I'm not Drumpf-level self proclaimed supergenius, but I've waged debate with people way more educated than myself and claimed ground.

Also been dead wrong about plenty of shit but hey thats how i learn.


Anybody who casually brings up their intelligence is probably overcompensating for something. It's one of the things that causes depression and anxiety. Most of these people have an image of their own capabilities/intelligence in their mind but when reality doesn't seem to mirror that there is a feeling of inadequacy. Normally therapy will address this but it's very difficult because the individual has a ingrained sense of self importance and arrogance that blocks real progress. I read about this in some medical papers a months back and thought it was really interesting. One of the excercises to improve the condition had the patients reduce their excessive pride in rank and make a conscious effort to value all knowledge, not just the knowledge they gave value to i.e. try to branch out and develop new hobbies or interests. The act of trying to learn about something your brain knows you are completely awful at seems to help alleviate some of the anxiety and develop new neural pathways.


Though this is tangentially interesting, this is pretty much armchair psych. By all means, if you ever recognize an actual criticism, please let me know! And that's genuine, not just internets dickwaving.


I'm not a licensed psychiatrist but when you spend the better part of a decade buried in medicine you are bound to read a couple of papers. You obviously know yourself better than anyone else so it's pointless to make conjectures about what you might be facing. I simply made an observation based on my everyday experiences based on some shit i've read along the way. You might truly be smarter than most everyone you interact with everyday. I don't doubt that. The average person is not very smart and lacks the drive to improve themselves so that does give you great odds. Another thing to note is that education does not always make someone smart. Both my parents have doctorates but ask them a question about something else and you wonder how they manage to make coffee without burning down the house. I have a pet theory that the programs that they went through broke them but that isn't really important.

What about when I talk about how dumb I am?
Because I've met plenty of smart people in the past years. I'd even dare to say I am not anywhere as naturally gifted as some of my friends are. Knowing my own limits put life in perspective for me.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-25 07:01:20
April 25 2018 06:54 GMT
#190132
On April 25 2018 15:33 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2018 13:44 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On April 25 2018 11:47 Fleetfeet wrote:
On April 25 2018 06:54 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On April 25 2018 06:30 Fleetfeet wrote:
On April 25 2018 03:11 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
e. I've never spoken to people smarter or more humble than me.


Hey man I recognize the conceit in my own statement. I'm not Drumpf-level self proclaimed supergenius, but I've waged debate with people way more educated than myself and claimed ground.

Also been dead wrong about plenty of shit but hey thats how i learn.


Anybody who casually brings up their intelligence is probably overcompensating for something. It's one of the things that causes depression and anxiety. Most of these people have an image of their own capabilities/intelligence in their mind but when reality doesn't seem to mirror that there is a feeling of inadequacy. Normally therapy will address this but it's very difficult because the individual has a ingrained sense of self importance and arrogance that blocks real progress. I read about this in some medical papers a months back and thought it was really interesting. One of the excercises to improve the condition had the patients reduce their excessive pride in rank and make a conscious effort to value all knowledge, not just the knowledge they gave value to i.e. try to branch out and develop new hobbies or interests. The act of trying to learn about something your brain knows you are completely awful at seems to help alleviate some of the anxiety and develop new neural pathways.


Though this is tangentially interesting, this is pretty much armchair psych. By all means, if you ever recognize an actual criticism, please let me know! And that's genuine, not just internets dickwaving.


I'm not a licensed psychiatrist but when you spend the better part of a decade buried in medicine you are bound to read a couple of papers. You obviously know yourself better than anyone else so it's pointless to make conjectures about what you might be facing. I simply made an observation based on my everyday experiences based on some shit i've read along the way. You might truly be smarter than most everyone you interact with everyday. I don't doubt that. The average person is not very smart and lacks the drive to improve themselves so that does give you great odds. Another thing to note is that education does not always make someone smart. Both my parents have doctorates but ask them a question about something else and you wonder how they manage to make coffee without burning down the house. I have a pet theory that the programs that they went through broke them but that isn't really important.

What about when I talk about how dumb I am?
Because I've met plenty of smart people in the past years. I'd even dare to say I am not anywhere as naturally gifted as some of my friends are. Knowing my own limits put life in perspective for me.


Once I graduated highschool I realized how little I actually knew. I try to work harder to try to make up for my shortcomings. Knowing that I was a retard relieved me of the burden of having to know everything so I don't feel bad asking questions. Sure you might look like a fool but people don't remember that stuff so why worry about it. Some people actually thank you for asking a question they were too afraid to ask. Gonna be honest though, it's very easy to become depressed because of feelings of inadequacy so I think there is a balance that you gotta hit.
High Risk Low Reward
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
April 25 2018 07:22 GMT
#190133
Just ask if you're sure you don't know how to fix a problem or complete a task.
Faking it and having the facade cone crashing down is not nice for anyone
passive quaranstream fan
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 25 2018 07:24 GMT
#190134
On April 25 2018 16:22 Artisreal wrote:
Just ask if you're sure you don't know how to fix a problem or complete a task.
Faking it and having the facade cone crashing down is not nice for anyone


why would you pretend to be an idiot
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2834 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-25 08:00:42
April 25 2018 08:00 GMT
#190135
Thx for the response Spicy. I appreciate you fam.

And yeah education doesn't necessarily equate intelligence, but being able to debate with students of a field and actually be able to grasp at least something of what the fuck the subjects at hand are is somewhat gratifying. Though some fields (Philosophy, I'm looking at you) are so fucking esoteric and couched in their own language that its practically impossible to even approach on an intellectual level as an "outsider".

And I'm not talking about getting high and mulling over what it means to be (or not to be), but actually talking about what x philosopher had to say about y subject. God that stuff was miserable.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
April 25 2018 08:44 GMT
#190136
On April 25 2018 16:24 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2018 16:22 Artisreal wrote:
Just ask if you're sure you don't know how to fix a problem or complete a task.
Faking it and having the facade cone crashing down is not nice for anyone


why would you pretend to be an idiot

If, then how did you come to the conclusion that I was saying that?
passive quaranstream fan
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 25 2018 08:52 GMT
#190137
On April 25 2018 17:44 Artisreal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2018 16:24 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On April 25 2018 16:22 Artisreal wrote:
Just ask if you're sure you don't know how to fix a problem or complete a task.
Faking it and having the facade cone crashing down is not nice for anyone


why would you pretend to be an idiot

If, then how did you come to the conclusion that I was saying that?


I was a bit confused. I see what you meant. Completely agree.
High Risk Low Reward
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7756 Posts
April 25 2018 08:56 GMT
#190138
Toronto folks, stay safe
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
April 25 2018 08:57 GMT
#190139
Frostpunk making me choose all the empathetic choices instead of the rational, reasonable ones. Weird. And my real-life views normally fall in the latter.
Skol
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
April 25 2018 09:52 GMT
#190140
psychoanalysis is fringe science at best
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
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