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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-21 02:21:38
April 21 2018 00:54 GMT
#189961
https://www.twitch.tv/intotheheart

Shadowverse stream lel.



Stream highlight I guess.
kiss kiss fall in love
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 21 2018 07:02 GMT
#189962
anyone play gloomhaven
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
April 21 2018 10:39 GMT
#189963
hot damn I've been so occupied with biogas that the changes in energy management standards went right past me.
I'm super curious whether the implicit obligation to document, i.e proof, the improvement of a company's energy related performance is going to backfire hard and cause organisations to instead adopt piecemeal improvement to assure re-certification instead of improving it as much as feasible.
passive quaranstream fan
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
April 21 2018 11:16 GMT
#189964
On April 21 2018 09:04 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2018 08:54 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
jungling seems really bad now, how do people get out of low priority?

Attribution.


sounds dangerously close to contribution
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-21 13:37:33
April 21 2018 13:24 GMT
#189965
I watched like two games of GLL PUBG championship or w/e

- one survivor from a team lying in a bush/hiding in a toilet, never moves or makes a sound, always dies to the zone
- one team outside a house, another in the house - nothing happens, until a third team happens by and kills the team on the outside
- then they wait in their houses/outside houses until the circle forces them out, some people die
- the final two teams are in a standoff for 5 minutes until the final circle forces them to move, whoever has better cover or has to move less wins
- nobody who takes fights outside early on wins; they start shooting someone and someone else comes from the side and kills them

so you literally never see anything exciting, despite the players probably being pretty good gamers
if they can actually force this game into an eSpOrT, I'll take my hat off
redesigning houses so they aren't impenetrable fortresses and deathtraps would be a good start

+ Show Spoiler +
tobi is also casting so ded gaem


e. you literally have one full team and 4 solos, some of them healing in the bluezone until they die
then the last guy doesn't even try but kills himself with a grenade
I'm sure this isn't how you design a competitive mode
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-21 16:05:02
April 21 2018 16:04 GMT
#189966
Just finished an 8 hour saturday class.
I wanna die
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2834 Posts
April 21 2018 21:27 GMT
#189967
On April 21 2018 22:24 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
I watched like two games of GLL PUBG championship or w/e

- one survivor from a team lying in a bush/hiding in a toilet, never moves or makes a sound, always dies to the zone
- one team outside a house, another in the house - nothing happens, until a third team happens by and kills the team on the outside
- then they wait in their houses/outside houses until the circle forces them out, some people die
- the final two teams are in a standoff for 5 minutes until the final circle forces them to move, whoever has better cover or has to move less wins
- nobody who takes fights outside early on wins; they start shooting someone and someone else comes from the side and kills them

so you literally never see anything exciting, despite the players probably being pretty good gamers
if they can actually force this game into an eSpOrT, I'll take my hat off
redesigning houses so they aren't impenetrable fortresses and deathtraps would be a good start

+ Show Spoiler +
tobi is also casting so ded gaem


e. you literally have one full team and 4 solos, some of them healing in the bluezone until they die
then the last guy doesn't even try but kills himself with a grenade
I'm sure this isn't how you design a competitive mode


I don't play pubgs but is there any incentive to killing people aside from internet points?

Because that seems like a good place to start if encouraging active play is a goal. Then again I've heard rumors about how the PUBG devs operate so that seems unlikely.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
April 21 2018 21:54 GMT
#189968
So poulsen, is the weekend to your liking?
passive quaranstream fan
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-21 22:27:08
April 21 2018 22:15 GMT
#189969
On April 22 2018 06:27 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2018 22:24 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
I watched like two games of GLL PUBG championship or w/e

- one survivor from a team lying in a bush/hiding in a toilet, never moves or makes a sound, always dies to the zone
- one team outside a house, another in the house - nothing happens, until a third team happens by and kills the team on the outside
- then they wait in their houses/outside houses until the circle forces them out, some people die
- the final two teams are in a standoff for 5 minutes until the final circle forces them to move, whoever has better cover or has to move less wins
- nobody who takes fights outside early on wins; they start shooting someone and someone else comes from the side and kills them

so you literally never see anything exciting, despite the players probably being pretty good gamers
if they can actually force this game into an eSpOrT, I'll take my hat off
redesigning houses so they aren't impenetrable fortresses and deathtraps would be a good start

+ Show Spoiler +
tobi is also casting so ded gaem


e. you literally have one full team and 4 solos, some of them healing in the bluezone until they die
then the last guy doesn't even try but kills himself with a grenade
I'm sure this isn't how you design a competitive mode


I don't play pubgs but is there any incentive to killing people aside from internet points?

Because that seems like a good place to start if encouraging active play is a goal. Then again I've heard rumors about how the PUBG devs operate so that seems unlikely.


operate is a strong word

i think they have some kind of a point system in place, however the game would be a lot more exciting if they only rewarded like the winning team points for placement, I mean that's the point of the game

e. of course part of it might be that the players are used to that sometimes over one second of grace time that you get online because of how they decided to code it
i haven't really played squads though so don't know how relevant it is there but solos you sometimes can't even prefire when someone is pushing you and expect to win if they have high ping
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-21 22:26:15
April 21 2018 22:26 GMT
#189970
play rainbow six siege instead its actually good
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
April 21 2018 22:37 GMT
#189971
the issue with pubg isn't just the inept devs but the game design

- they made bullet drop and air resistance so realistic that nobody even tries sniping beyond 350m anymore, just ruin the best part of the game for no reason
- nobody likes the random red zone, brendan greene refuses to remove it and says you are bad if you die to it and it exists to punish campers when campers are literally the only people unaffected by it and if you try to use it to push people that's when you die to it
- the weapon spawns are insanely random
- and the weapon balance is shit

all the gameplay of r6 I've seen has been people peeking a corner for 10 minutes zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2834 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-21 23:09:53
April 21 2018 23:07 GMT
#189972
You sound conflicted on what you want the game to be tho

On one hand you're like "bring back hitscan snipers" but on the other hand you're like "fuck campers"... but if you make it even less safe to leave a building then more people are gonna stick in a building.

Iunno. I feel like as a designer you need to have a vision for what you want to achieve and create a feedback loop that supports that vision. In my head I picture PUBG games as a bunch of betas parachuting down and only the most conan/rambo/alpha of them survives, so give like +5 max health on kill and slightly upgrade whatever gun you used to murder a person... so the end fight isn't about who played the most conservative/passive, but who most efficiently murdered people to climb to the top of the pile.

Maybe superiorFPS COD killstreak calldowns are the thing. 2 kills gives you a supply calldown, 5 kills gives you a 30 second heartbeat sensor etc etc.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 21 2018 23:39 GMT
#189973
Redzones are really fucking stupid though.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 22 2018 00:25 GMT
#189974
So a kangaroo got stoned to death in China because it wasn't hopping
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 22 2018 03:38 GMT
#189975
On April 22 2018 09:25 Nevuk wrote:
So a kangaroo got stoned to death in China because it wasn't hopping


The zoo is going to stuff the dead kangaroo and put it on display too
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
April 22 2018 04:21 GMT
#189976
I had a six-hour first date today
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 22 2018 04:37 GMT
#189977
On April 22 2018 13:21 eieio wrote:
I had a six-hour first date today


Did u split?
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
April 22 2018 04:48 GMT
#189978
On April 22 2018 13:37 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2018 13:21 eieio wrote:
I had a six-hour first date today


Did u split?

she bought me coffee at like 3, and then I bought her hot chocolate like 3 hours later, and then at like 9 we split dinner.

It was a long day!!
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 22 2018 04:51 GMT
#189979
On April 22 2018 13:48 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2018 13:37 Spicy_Curry wrote:
On April 22 2018 13:21 eieio wrote:
I had a six-hour first date today


Did u split?

she bought me coffee at like 3, and then I bought her hot chocolate like 3 hours later, and then at like 9 we split dinner.

It was a long day!!


sounds like you had fun
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
April 22 2018 05:12 GMT
#189980
oh shit rpi avicii, apparently he had acute pancreatitis at one point, I almost died from acute pancreatitis once lol
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
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