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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 12 2015 21:56 GMT
#9821
On February 13 2015 06:53 Rocket-Bear wrote:
It's not like 2k rated ppl are amazing drow players either

right clicking is easier than any of ES' spells
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 12 2015 21:56 GMT
#9822
On February 13 2015 06:53 Rocket-Bear wrote:
It's not like 2k rated ppl are amazing drow players either

They can right click someone and just leave frost arrows on.

Seriously, I'm bad but some people who insta pick carries in 2K are beyond horrible. They don't rely on farming skill, they rely on time to get 6 slotted because most of their opponents are to dumb to finish the game.
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 12 2015 22:07 GMT
#9823
Landing spells really aren't that hard. Even seen 2k invokers.

His spells are harder to land but the opponents are easier to hit. They also have a lot less understanding of what the hero does. If a 2k rated player likes eatshitspirit like 10 games in a row I can see them wreck face in that bracket after that.

You have more time to think about your spells and aim them because ppl has slower reactions and stuff.

Landing spells are by far the easiest thing in Dota. From when I've started to play this game heroes like clock and windrunner, potm has been picked forever.

I think every hero is viable at every bracket except maybe for meepo because you need some form of basic map awareness for that hero.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 22:16:59
February 12 2015 22:11 GMT
#9824
I dunno, when the literal best hero in dota has a 44% winrate on dotabuff you know it's because the trenches are hauling his ass down real hard.

Yes a 2k player *could* learn and own with ES. For sure. But when he's asking about ez drafts to win, yeah ES doesn't sound like the hero.
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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 12 2015 22:14 GMT
#9825
As someone who is playing with 2k and below people, Drow is amazing. 4shotting a viper is hilarious. It's also very easy to just get that extra 40 agi and rightclick for ~200 damage.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 22:17:34
February 12 2015 22:16 GMT
#9826
The trench where you need to take into account thinks like "if I pull will my carry be smart enough to pull the creeps off the tower?"

The struggle is real.

Edit: Drow is legit if you can get a team smart enough to save you if they pick SB.
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rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
February 12 2015 22:18 GMT
#9827
On February 13 2015 07:07 Rocket-Bear wrote:
I think every hero is viable at every bracket except maybe for meepo because you need some form of basic map awareness for that hero.


Talking about viability, I am close to 5k and I haven't seen a lifestealer, shadow demon, sven etc. win a game in months. I think I've seen about 5 lifestealers with 25 minutes unobstructed free farm who just got wrecked by in-meta heroes like jugg and troll, who had been feeding and with 3x less space in the last few weeks.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 12 2015 22:20 GMT
#9828
I mean, lifestealer if flat out bad against any agility hero with crits. Armor, a low HP poor and burst damage are his worst enemy.

But Sven makes me sad, that hero should be more viable because he is so awesome.
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 12 2015 22:24 GMT
#9829
I think all heroes are really viable now except for maybe CK.

SD is really good atm. People just like to pick whatever pros pick because they want to win rating. But imo most heroes are viable atm. Some are just more fit for pubs because pubs is played in a certain way. Jugger has always been good vs Naix, it's just unfortunate now when he is picked as often as he is.

I think troll might be the most overrated hero in Dota. And Kunkka as the most underrated
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 12 2015 22:34 GMT
#9830
Its live and I am out of work. FUCKING VICTORY!
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 12 2015 22:35 GMT
#9831
The event itself wont start proper until tomorrow though.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 12 2015 22:36 GMT
#9832
All that matters is that the puppy can be mine!
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 22:39:36
February 12 2015 22:38 GMT
#9833
I'm still wondering if i should buy the arcana or not, the points for the event could be nice + the extra points you get for playing during the event...

Sure i can buy it for half price after the event, but might be worth it to just get it now and consider it 11€ spent on getting points for the event, then again i don't get to play CM nowadays so it's kind of a waste
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 22:39:53
February 12 2015 22:39 GMT
#9834
ck is fairly good against heroes like jugg and troll
or against any heroes really
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 12 2015 22:40 GMT
#9835
Yeah CK still works in pubs, i'd agree that he isn't that hot in competitive games atm though.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
February 12 2015 22:43 GMT
#9836
lmao valve fucked up

new bloom map is the same one as last year, meaning roshan is back in his old spot

gg icefraud and valve quality control
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Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
February 12 2015 22:46 GMT
#9837
Alright I'll tell u the hero pools
Pos 1: anyone. He's best on team.
2: Medusa, clock, puck, NOT SILENCER. Does well with ks heroes
3/4: these two are special. They alternate. One of them is like hovering around 900mmr, but he can play "not die" heroes with as little as 10 deaths a game. Other is average at everything.
5(me): any support besides bat and visage, can play a few offlaners. Likes bane, cm, anyone with some sort of guaranteed lockdown.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 12 2015 22:46 GMT
#9838
pls be patient, dota is in beta.

HAHA! XD
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 12 2015 22:46 GMT
#9839
comeh are u watching this shit yet.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 12 2015 23:01 GMT
#9840
oh great dota went full advertise moba again
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