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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
January 23 2015 18:25 GMT
#6161
ranged bashed doesn't bash bkb targets can confirm have seen Abyssal Blade puck

i think it dumpstered on that game
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 23 2015 18:34 GMT
#6162
That's only dota1 though, abyssal/skull basher should work(as in, bash BKB targets) even on ranged in dota2.

Yeah just tested, works just fine.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-23 18:49:16
January 23 2015 18:45 GMT
#6163
On January 24 2015 02:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 02:34 BluemoonSC wrote:
but there were obvious aimbot hacks being used to check through walls for enemy players.

if you know literally nothing about the situation please don't make up lies thanks
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 02:34 andyrau wrote:
well according to him it syncs over steam cloud
i mean, wouldnt it be child's play to scan each person's steam account for specific types of configs?

there were rumours of this "workshop" hack but nothing ever came of it and DHWinter took precautions to prevent such a hack. Yes it should be easy to catch so the fact that nothing came of it makes one think that it's a myth.


I watched a FP video that featured a player's crosshair pretty blatantly moving to an enemy's head through the wall.

perhaps more came out afterwards, but idk man..seemed pretty straight forward to me.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 23 2015 18:51 GMT
#6164
Thats like saying
"i watched a video and puppey blindly dewarded some guy. Blatant cheating".
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-23 18:59:08
January 23 2015 18:58 GMT
#6165
On January 24 2015 03:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
Thats like saying
"i watched a video and puppey blindly dewarded some guy. Blatant cheating".


I think that would be fairly less obvious than a professional player making a movement with their mouse that was unnecessary (moving it to a spot on a wall, not the corner of the wall, as if turning the corner)..then the crosshair "snapping" to a particular spot through the wall, "unsnapping," and it just so happened to have a player in that exact spot in another spot on the map. more than once.

dunno..when you're not being efficient with your movements as a pro player in those circumstances, to me that's awfully suspicious.

did it come out that the player was cheating? I know it was a huge issue at the time of the map abuse, but I can't remember the player/team since im ultra casual with csgo
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
January 23 2015 18:59 GMT
#6166
So I just beat this guy mid who is apparently Smash the legendary Pastor. Was ez as hell? Yay?
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
January 23 2015 18:59 GMT
#6167
pics or it didn't happen.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
January 23 2015 19:05 GMT
#6168
On January 24 2015 03:58 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 03:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
Thats like saying
"i watched a video and puppey blindly dewarded some guy. Blatant cheating".


I think that would be fairly less obvious than a professional player making a movement with their mouse that was unnecessary (moving it to a spot on a wall, not the corner of the wall, as if turning the corner)..then the crosshair "snapping" to a particular spot through the wall, "unsnapping," and it just so happened to have a player in that exact spot in another spot on the map. more than once.

dunno..when you're not being efficient with your movements as a pro player in those circumstances, to me that's awfully suspicious.

did it come out that the player was cheating? I know it was a huge issue at the time of the map abuse, but I can't remember the player/team since im ultra casual with csgo

You don't seem to have any idea about what you're talking about so I'll clear it up for you, that specific player just had such habits and if you do it a million times so called suspicious incidents are going to happen. All it takes for somebody to get accused of cheating by a idiotic mob is to look in the right places even when no cheating is going on at all.
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
January 23 2015 19:06 GMT
#6169
He has a habit of snapping exactly on your head. Useful skill toi have if I do say so myself.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198133993254/ <-----Smash Alterino?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 23 2015 19:10 GMT
#6170
On January 24 2015 03:34 Unleashing wrote:
That's only dota1 though, abyssal/skull basher should work(as in, bash BKB targets) even on ranged in dota2.

Yeah just tested, works just fine.

It works in dota 1 too, you just have to have a really high attack speed and be on a hero with a slow moving projectile.
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-23 19:19:17
January 23 2015 19:17 GMT
#6171
On January 24 2015 04:06 Slardar wrote:
He has a habit of snapping exactly on your head. Useful skill toi have if I do say so myself.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198133993254/ <-----Smash Alterino?


might be, he has fogged on his friends list

probably is him, he has iwo and masoku on his friends list too.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 23 2015 19:26 GMT
#6172
On January 24 2015 04:10 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 03:34 Unleashing wrote:
That's only dota1 though, abyssal/skull basher should work(as in, bash BKB targets) even on ranged in dota2.

Yeah just tested, works just fine.

It works in dota 1 too, you just have to have a really high attack speed and be on a hero with a slow moving projectile.

Does it really?

I always thought ranged skull basher was a magic type debuff, and melee was a physical debuff.

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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
January 23 2015 19:32 GMT
#6173
On January 24 2015 04:05 Nixer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 03:58 BluemoonSC wrote:
On January 24 2015 03:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
Thats like saying
"i watched a video and puppey blindly dewarded some guy. Blatant cheating".


I think that would be fairly less obvious than a professional player making a movement with their mouse that was unnecessary (moving it to a spot on a wall, not the corner of the wall, as if turning the corner)..then the crosshair "snapping" to a particular spot through the wall, "unsnapping," and it just so happened to have a player in that exact spot in another spot on the map. more than once.

dunno..when you're not being efficient with your movements as a pro player in those circumstances, to me that's awfully suspicious.

did it come out that the player was cheating? I know it was a huge issue at the time of the map abuse, but I can't remember the player/team since im ultra casual with csgo

You don't seem to have any idea about what you're talking about so I'll clear it up for you, that specific player just had such habits and if you do it a million times so called suspicious incidents are going to happen. All it takes for somebody to get accused of cheating by a idiotic mob is to look in the right places even when no cheating is going on at all.


listen, i only saw the video that was circulating around the time it was an issue.

everyone is so uppity about their gunmoba jesus
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
January 23 2015 19:33 GMT
#6174
Shane's stream right now is hilarious, its Shane, sheever, Draskyl 2GD and Waga playing together and Shane spent 2 minutes in a creep as life stealer trying to get last hits haha
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-23 19:35:06
January 23 2015 19:34 GMT
#6175
I mean you'd be mad if people just decided to announce that dota was rife with match fixing because he watched this clip where universe accidentally pressed BKB and his team lost and clearly that was an intentional throw for money so all dota is full of matchfixing for money and it's clearly a huge problem with the scene right now.

You can't just say that "all pros are cheating" and expect everything to be fine and call complaints about it "uppity"
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 23 2015 19:34 GMT
#6176
On January 24 2015 04:26 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 04:10 Nevuk wrote:
On January 24 2015 03:34 Unleashing wrote:
That's only dota1 though, abyssal/skull basher should work(as in, bash BKB targets) even on ranged in dota2.

Yeah just tested, works just fine.

It works in dota 1 too, you just have to have a really high attack speed and be on a hero with a slow moving projectile.

Does it really?

I always thought ranged skull basher was a magic type debuff, and melee was a physical debuff.

DOTA MAKES NO SENSE

wait now im confused i thought basher was physical across both games no matter range or melee
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-23 19:38:29
January 23 2015 19:37 GMT
#6177
On January 24 2015 04:26 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2015 04:10 Nevuk wrote:
On January 24 2015 03:34 Unleashing wrote:
That's only dota1 though, abyssal/skull basher should work(as in, bash BKB targets) even on ranged in dota2.

Yeah just tested, works just fine.

It works in dota 1 too, you just have to have a really high attack speed and be on a hero with a slow moving projectile.

Does it really?

I always thought ranged skull basher was a magic type debuff, and melee was a physical debuff.

DOTA MAKES NO SENSE

I linked the thread earlier - http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1324836
The current state of knowledge is that the ranged bash will only misbehave if the bash ability was removed before the attack lands, correct?

Yes, the ranged bash will stun through magic immunity and also will deal the bonus damage if present, if the bash ability gets removed after the projectile is launched and before the projectile hits

Something that is possible to happen with the current Cranium Basher script...
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
January 23 2015 19:38 GMT
#6178
On January 24 2015 04:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean you'd be mad if people just decided to announce that dota was rife with match fixing because he watched this clip where universe accidentally pressed BKB and his team lost and clearly that was an intentional throw for money so all dota is full of matchfixing for money and it's clearly a huge problem with the scene right now.

You can't just say that "all pros are cheating" and expect everything to be fine and call complaints about it "uppity"


i uhh...never said all pros were cheating lol
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 23 2015 19:50 GMT
#6179
ok i can say with confidence that nonorganic half and half is infinitely inferior to organic half and half

don't listen to the plebs that declare organic products are a sham
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 23 2015 19:54 GMT
#6180
Glad we confirmed that. I can also confirm that people clearly have feelings about CSGO and if people are or are not cheating.
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