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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 15 2015 09:33 GMT
#44421
On June 15 2015 18:01 Shaella wrote:
You blow. Discuss

Gottem boys.

smh u need to be put down
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 09:53:07
June 15 2015 09:48 GMT
#44422
On June 15 2015 15:51 Shaella wrote:
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On June 15 2015 13:47 Unleashing wrote:
They cut skills and traits and shoved them in as perks and we now have non-descriptive dialogue wheels.

I'm not excited yet. Crafting and customization looked great, but that can't carry the game itself if they ruin the (imo)core RPG elements, proper character customization.

?

Where are you getting the lack of skills from

From paying attention to what we was shown

When the pipboy was show we were shown the stat screen and it only had perks, no traits or skills. Ontop of this, the SPECIALs no longer say that they boost a skill, not even when you make your character. And further ontop of this, during the weapon crafting/modding we were shown it said that to craft one of the energy weapons you needed Rank 1 science and for another you needed Rank 3 science or something.

And then this:
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They're going to use some form of skyrim perk upgrade system.

I also PRAY that the shitty dialogue wheel they showed is console-exclusive, because i fucking hate dialogue wheels. You gotta hope your character says what you expected them to say.
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From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 15 2015 10:46 GMT
#44423
On June 15 2015 13:47 Unleashing wrote:
They cut skills and traits and shoved them in as perks and we now have non-descriptive dialogue wheels.

I'm not excited yet. Crafting and customization looked great, but that can't carry the game itself if they ruin the (imo)core RPG elements, proper character customization.

this sums up my feelings from what they showed, im just hyped because we don't have to wait to see what it will be like
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 15 2015 13:01 GMT
#44424
Jurassic World is a legit good time. The right level of summer action movie that's serious, but also kinda knows its dumb.

And Dishonored 2 is very exciting.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 15 2015 13:03 GMT
#44425
only reason for me to watch that movie is chris pratt
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 15 2015 13:04 GMT
#44426
I've been letdown so much from previous Bethesda games I can tell from a pattern it will be the same this time. Why people still think Bethesda games are "OMG SO INCREDIBLE 10/10 SO FUN!!!!!!!!!" and then in a few weeks will only touch it because of mods. Maybe it will be a great game and a contender for 2015 GOTY, maybe it will be the same. All I know is with unreleased video games and life be a pessimist so you are either proven right or pleasantly surprised.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 15 2015 13:05 GMT
#44427
On June 15 2015 22:04 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I've been letdown so much from previous Bethesda games I can tell from a pattern it will be the same this time. Why people still think Bethesda games are "OMG SO INCREDIBLE 10/10 SO FUN!!!!!!!!!" and then in a few weeks will only touch it because of mods. Maybe it will be a great game and a contender for 2015 GOTY, maybe it will be the same. All I know is with unreleased video games and life be a pessimist so you are either proven right or pleasantly surprised.

im worried about the variance in things you're able to say being reduced

also im gonna either kill that dog or tell it to go hide somewhere as soon as i meet it
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 13:11:12
June 15 2015 13:08 GMT
#44428
I kind of also dislike how fleshed out your character's background is.

You're a middle-aged father/mother with a wife/husband and you seem to be a fairly average person.
If you leave the vault and begin to just kill everyone then it'll be pretty fucking weird considering you're meant to be an average family man. You can't make a character that's a crazy bomb lobbing loner, because that'd never make sense(You obviously can make such a character probably, but it'd go against what we know about the MC).

Previous characters were more like "Well you're a random vault dweller" or "You're a courier with amnesia"
Even in FO3 where you went through your character's childhood and shit but you could be both a good person or an awful person right from the get go more or less.

Anyway i'm definitely overly pessimistic about this game.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 15 2015 13:10 GMT
#44429
bethesda do like their amnesia
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 13:18:31
June 15 2015 13:17 GMT
#44430
Video games like amnesia. See the Witch and KotR. The latter being the better use of it. Its a tired, overused writing trope that I am glad Bethesda is getting away from. It makes for some flat story options, IMO, since your character has no grounding and just does stuff because you decided that its going to be.

I hope Fallout will have more options in the opening. I could see them doing some cool stuff with the whole being married idea, if they did it the same way Fall Out 3 worked. Maybe you get to pick your husband/wife and decide how you want to treat that relationship.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 15 2015 13:20 GMT
#44431
what did people think of amnesia I never played it or watched day9 play it
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TL+ Member
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 15 2015 13:22 GMT
#44432
On June 15 2015 22:08 Unleashing wrote:
I kind of also dislike how fleshed out your character's background is.

You're a middle-aged father/mother with a wife/husband and you seem to be a fairly average person.
If you leave the vault and begin to just kill everyone then it'll be pretty fucking weird considering you're meant to be an average family man. You can't make a character that's a crazy bomb lobbing loner, because that'd never make sense(You obviously can make such a character probably, but it'd go against what we know about the MC).

Previous characters were more like "Well you're a random vault dweller" or "You're a courier with amnesia"
Even in FO3 where you went through your character's childhood and shit but you could be both a good person or an awful person right from the get go more or less.

Anyway i'm definitely overly pessimistic about this game.

yeah i dont like this either
i really liked having the character live how i wanted them to

i guess you can play him off as being a bomb lobbing loner after the death of his wife and shit though
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 15 2015 13:24 GMT
#44433
wow u guys are such roleplayers
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 15 2015 13:24 GMT
#44434
On June 15 2015 22:24 teddyoojo wrote:
wow u guys are such roleplayers

i project onto video game characters because my real life is a misery and im a lonely soul
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 15 2015 13:26 GMT
#44435
On June 15 2015 22:24 teddyoojo wrote:
wow u guys are such roleplayers

I like to self-insert and immerse into CRPGs.

It's FUN.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 15 2015 13:27 GMT
#44436
On June 15 2015 22:24 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 22:24 teddyoojo wrote:
wow u guys are such roleplayers

i project onto video game characters because my real life is a misery and im a lonely soul

stop sounding like comeh
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 15 2015 13:27 GMT
#44437
On June 15 2015 22:27 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 22:24 Targe wrote:
On June 15 2015 22:24 teddyoojo wrote:
wow u guys are such roleplayers

i project onto video game characters because my real life is a misery and im a lonely soul

stop sounding like comeh

nice i nailed it heheh
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 15 2015 13:36 GMT
#44438
On June 15 2015 22:24 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 22:24 teddyoojo wrote:
wow u guys are such roleplayers

i project onto video game characters because my real life is a misery and im a lonely soul

I'm a lonely cloud

and ya that was spot on comeh
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44298 Posts
June 15 2015 13:39 GMT
#44439
On June 15 2015 22:36 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 22:24 Targe wrote:
On June 15 2015 22:24 teddyoojo wrote:
wow u guys are such roleplayers

i project onto video game characters because my real life is a misery and im a lonely soul

I'm a lonely cloud

and ya that was spot on comeh

you guys are overthinking this

targe is obviously comeh's smurf

the evidence can't be denied
this is a quote
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 15 2015 13:50 GMT
#44440
im at 7k posts soon w00000
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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