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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 17 2020 19:13 GMT
#205981
the only people i know who used to play thousands of wc3 games liked the game. The only real flaw was the game finding bug where you had to restart the game cuz it was stuck on "found game"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 17 2020 19:22 GMT
#205982
lol about a billion broken promises
releasing an unfinished game
under the pretence ur gonna """""""""AGGRESSIVELY PATCH"""""""""
release a patch every other month that changes some pixels in the new reforged graphics
cant use reforged graphics anyway because they fucking suck, make ur game lag and are terribly designed so u cant tell shit apart
no ladder system, people made a custom ladder out of game where everyones playing now
no trace of mmr in 2v2+
game is just a straight up worse than wc3 released 17 years ago with a bunch of features missing
only upside being good ping
that isnt even good ping half the time cuz u randomly get matched on korea servers and shit
but thank god no ladder so u just leave half the games at start cuz it lags
a bunch of broken custom games
the game itself is still good cuz its a 17 year old game from blizzard
reforged has been the biggest scam since dayz

good reason for this
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Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-17 21:14:49
May 17 2020 19:24 GMT
#205983
let's be real here, they only make these remakes so they can try to claim any mods as their own IP
since it has been 15+ since last original IP
apart from that TF reskin

E. I make a comment here about netflix and I suddenly get an email about finishing my netflix signup in my old email which I would assume I've used for this site. Don't think I've ever even visited netflix before or given them any of my emails. Interesting to say the least.

It says this was sent to you because you created a netflix account and I didn't. Then it says if you didn't create a netflix account you can unsubscribe.So they know it's bullshit. So why and how was I suddenly subjected to this email?
If there's ever anything interesting on Netflix now I will sure as hell illegally torrent it and feel good doing it.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-18 01:22:24
May 18 2020 01:19 GMT
#205984
People say it was to prevent DotA.... But like, it already did. From what I recall, Valve had to pay a good chunk of money to Blizzard. Blizzard failing at getting all the money from dota was their own fault. There was no real reason for that crazy extreme language other than to prevent something like autochess, which went on to make their own game with no dota2 assets.

Most appalling thing about that metacritic page is how high the critic score is.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 18 2020 05:14 GMT
#205985
I mean, graphics are subjective (although i know of 0 people who prefer reforged over original lmao) but the fact that reforged also ruined custom games, ruined literally every bnet functionality, and added literally nothing all while actively disabling old wc3 (you can't play the old version anymore even if you payed for it) is pretty rich. AND they try to make you pay for it lmao.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-18 14:28:40
May 18 2020 14:24 GMT
#205986
I didn't like how Reforged made all the units look like plastic toys from a purely cosmetic perspective. There's a decent Wha Happun by Matt McMuscles that details this.


Shoutout to AOE2DE that introduced new content, and some QOL features you can disable. And a tutorial for multiplayer. On another AOE2 note, my friends are now too skilled for me to realistically 1v3 them.
kiss kiss fall in love
Supreme88
Profile Joined May 2020
Russian Federation3 Posts
May 18 2020 15:47 GMT
#205987
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 18 2020 18:14 GMT
#205988
Disco Elysium is good as hell
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
May 18 2020 18:52 GMT
#205989
On May 19 2020 03:14 PassiveAce wrote:
Disco Elysium is good as hell

[Encyclopedia] You know this game is good from your cursory readings online. 10/10 from Gamespot, 9.6 from IGN, winner of all four awards from The Game Awards.

[Visual Calculus] If this game was inside a box, it would leave a delicate mark on the wall you threw it at.

[Inland Empire] The game calls you from an unsettling emptiness, a void within your heart that craves excellent role-playing games.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-18 20:29:51
May 18 2020 20:29 GMT
#205990
[Espirit de Corps] Following two hours punctuated with frequent, bellowing laughter you are starting to feel bad about pirating the game.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 18 2020 21:10 GMT
#205991
+ Show Spoiler +
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goddamnit i hate those damn dryders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 18 2020 21:54 GMT
#205992
guildwars best game all time
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 18 2020 22:04 GMT
#205993
its free uw/fow week man
there was so many people at the boardwalk for the anniversary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 18 2020 22:46 GMT
#205994
meh

when the patch came embark beach was nuts ye
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 19 2020 15:54 GMT
#205995
On May 19 2020 03:14 PassiveAce wrote:
Disco Elysium is good as hell

gah I repurposed by desk where my desktop is for work and now its a huge pain in the ass to game on it so I haven't sat down to actually do a playthrough in lockdown

it needs to come out for console, i was having so much fun
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
May 19 2020 16:36 GMT
#205996
I like the artstyle and it looks interesting but the last 5 isometric RPGs I've got have all been massive failures writing wise. Like either massive lore dumps or dialogue like someone was getting high off their own fart,
I nearly finished d:os2 but that's just because it was otherwise really good game. The writing is so whatever.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 19 2020 16:38 GMT
#205997
On May 20 2020 01:36 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
I like the artstyle and it looks interesting but the last 5 isometric RPGs I've got have all been massive failures writing wise. Like either massive lore dumps or dialogue like someone was getting high off their own fart,
I nearly finished d:os2 but that's just because it was otherwise really good game. The writing is so whatever.

It's the first video game to make me laugh out loud (hard!) in I don't know how long.

The mechanics are fascinating.

The writing is genuinely great, the story is bizarre.

And I am saying this as someone who, generally speaking, cannot stand games that try to be story-heavy because I think that they are normally heavy-handed and bad.
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-19 17:56:58
May 19 2020 17:56 GMT
#205998
Iv never cared about point and click adventure/dialogue driven games but the writing in disco is so off the charts excellent that it just feels like reading a good book

Ted have you played it?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 19 2020 18:07 GMT
#205999
no i dont like reading
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-05-19 18:17:10
May 19 2020 18:16 GMT
#206000
On May 20 2020 01:38 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2020 01:36 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
I like the artstyle and it looks interesting but the last 5 isometric RPGs I've got have all been massive failures writing wise. Like either massive lore dumps or dialogue like someone was getting high off their own fart,
I nearly finished d:os2 but that's just because it was otherwise really good game. The writing is so whatever.

It's the first video game to make me laugh out loud (hard!) in I don't know how long.

The mechanics are fascinating.

The writing is genuinely great, the story is bizarre.

And I am saying this as someone who, generally speaking, cannot stand games that try to be story-heavy because I think that they are normally heavy-handed and bad.


I still have pretty strong emotions when I think back to the game. I think it's probably one of the truest representations of being a millennial or younger (even if our protag is probably older than a millennial would be) and our current world & politics. It's such a beautiful and deep expression of a lot of concepts while having a lot of restraint and not hitting you over the head with messages.

Mechanically it's also a masterpiece and blows any other game's dialogue system out of the water.
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