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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 13 2019 14:52 GMT
#200881
On May 13 2019 21:45 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2019 20:31 PassiveAce wrote:
Lol people sound pissed at GoT

Its like the red wedding 2.0, but no one can feel smug about it because they read the books first. Personally, I'm not surprised the character that tortured a bunch of slavers to death turned out to a blood thirsty. But a show about bad decisions will end with more bad decision.


it's nothing like the red wedding? This wasn't even a shocking episode, the thing everyone expected to happen happened.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2019 15:11 GMT
#200882
On May 13 2019 23:52 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2019 21:45 Plansix wrote:
On May 13 2019 20:31 PassiveAce wrote:
Lol people sound pissed at GoT

Its like the red wedding 2.0, but no one can feel smug about it because they read the books first. Personally, I'm not surprised the character that tortured a bunch of slavers to death turned out to a blood thirsty. But a show about bad decisions will end with more bad decision.


it's nothing like the red wedding? This wasn't even a shocking episode, the thing everyone expected to happen happened.

Given the response from a lot of people I know, I don’t think everyone expected this.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 13 2019 15:16 GMT
#200883
It was long coming, the dragon girl was mad from the start, it just everything was rushed as fuck
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 16:15:35
May 13 2019 15:21 GMT
#200884
On May 14 2019 00:11 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2019 23:52 Logo wrote:
On May 13 2019 21:45 Plansix wrote:
On May 13 2019 20:31 PassiveAce wrote:
Lol people sound pissed at GoT

Its like the red wedding 2.0, but no one can feel smug about it because they read the books first. Personally, I'm not surprised the character that tortured a bunch of slavers to death turned out to a blood thirsty. But a show about bad decisions will end with more bad decision.


it's nothing like the red wedding? This wasn't even a shocking episode, the thing everyone expected to happen happened.

Given the response from a lot of people I know, I don’t think everyone expected this.


It seems like you are conflating multiple groups of people at the very least? Those that are shocked and those that didn't like the way the episode was done aren't necessarily completely overlapping groups. It just sounds like a gross over simplification to dismiss people who are making critiques.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 16:02:18
May 13 2019 15:38 GMT
#200885
On May 14 2019 00:21 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 00:11 Plansix wrote:
On May 13 2019 23:52 Logo wrote:
On May 13 2019 21:45 Plansix wrote:
On May 13 2019 20:31 PassiveAce wrote:
Lol people sound pissed at GoT

Its like the red wedding 2.0, but no one can feel smug about it because they read the books first. Personally, I'm not surprised the character that tortured a bunch of slavers to death turned out to a blood thirsty. But a show about bad decisions will end with more bad decision.


it's nothing like the red wedding? This wasn't even a shocking episode, the thing everyone expected to happen happened.

Given the response from a lot of people I know, I don’t think everyone expected this.


It seems like you are conflating multiple groups of people at the very least? Those that are shocked and those that didn't like the way she went mad aren't necessarily completely overlapping groups. It just sounds like a gross over simplification to dismiss people who are making critiques.

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I’m not here to validate your views. I understand the disappointment and get why people are bummed this season is rushed. But the argument that mass murder with dragon is out of character who burned a father and son alive for refusing to kneel to her after defeat is something I fundamentally disagree with. Dany has always been blood thirsty and happy to use violence to terrify her enemies. She has always talked big about being a just ruler and never backed up much of it with her actions. She is still the same person who watched her brother die without an ounce of remorse for the horrible way it happened. If you contrast her with someone like Jon, who was reluctant to kill people who LITERALLY stabbed him to death, it gives you a real idea of how much humanity she does not have.

Again, I totally understand why people are disappointed the series is so rush. It is a bummer. The creators and cast are moving on. But Dany has always been a vengeful, blood thirsty person who wanted power that we hoped would turn into a good person. It never happened.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 13 2019 15:39 GMT
#200886
not that i care about the show, but shouldn't these discussions be spoilered in this general discussion thread...
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 16:27:07
May 13 2019 15:48 GMT
#200887
On May 13 2019 23:51 teddyoojo wrote:
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On May 13 2019 23:49 PassiveAce wrote:
On May 13 2019 23:47 teddyoojo wrote:
i disagree

think about all the megafan parents that named their kid after daenerys in the last 5 years tho

this is good and funny

my favourite quotes so far:
+ Show Spoiler +
I loved the symbolism this episode.

Drogon and Daenerys represented Benioff and Weiss.

Kings Landing represented the fans.

The Hound represented George RR Martin.

The Mountain represented the last two books.

I imagine parents who named their children "Daenerys," or "Khaleesi" are regretting it now

I am still shocked at Jaime saying he never cared much for the innocent. So saving half a million innocent lives from the Mad King was all just for a laugh?

Tell me, if your precious Renly commanded you to kill your own father and stand by while thousands of men, women, and children burned alive, would you have done it? Would you have kept your oath then?

Jaime Season 3 Episode 5

na fuck the innocent lmao

Jaime Season 8 Episode 5

"dany just kinda forgot about her sanity"


some memes:
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Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 16:10:26
May 13 2019 16:01 GMT
#200888
On May 14 2019 00:39 ahswtini wrote:
not that i care about the show, but shouldn't these discussions be spoilered in this general discussion thread...

Yes.

edit: I’ll manually spoiler tag anything after class if it hasn’t already been done by then.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2019 16:03 GMT
#200889
Done. Sorry about that folks, my bad.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-13 16:07:55
May 13 2019 16:07 GMT
#200890
On May 14 2019 00:39 ahswtini wrote:
not that i care about the show, but shouldn't these discussions be spoilered in this general discussion thread...

I have learned one truth
GoT and MCU fans have one thing in common, they consider people who spoil others the worst people in the world, but the second they've seen it themselves they're perfectly happy to openly talk about it and spoil others because how could they spoil people if they can no longer be spoiled themselves?

I've had to unfollow multiple people on twitter, not simply because they were spoiling shit but because the same people had been whining about others posting spoilers just a day or two before

I'm sure the same applies to more fandoms, but in recent years I've seen these two groups exemplify this trait more extremely than I've ever seen it before
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2019 16:15 GMT
#200891
I've been from the opposite camp for some times. I don't believe spoilers can ruin anything and often spoil myself on some movies just because I don't want to waste my time if it is trash. I found the second watch through of Lost with my wife to be far more enjoyable and it made me like the series a lot more.

But I do respect that some people really want to go in blind and I'm sorry if I spoiled anything in GoT for anyone.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 13 2019 16:18 GMT
#200892
On May 14 2019 01:07 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 00:39 ahswtini wrote:
not that i care about the show, but shouldn't these discussions be spoilered in this general discussion thread...

I have learned one truth
GoT and MCU fans have one thing in common, they consider people who spoil others the worst people in the world, but the second they've seen it themselves they're perfectly happy to openly talk about it and spoil others because how could they spoil people if they can no longer be spoiled themselves?

I've had to unfollow multiple people on twitter, not simply because they were spoiling shit but because the same people had been whining about others posting spoilers just a day or two before

I'm sure the same applies to more fandoms, but in recent years I've seen these two groups exemplify this trait more extremely than I've ever seen it before

Media properties are so important to people these days lol
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2019 16:27 GMT
#200893
Let us all rejoice that the terrible Tolkien bio-pic bombed.

And that season 2 of Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress will arrive soon. Because that series is filled with dumb and I love it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7754 Posts
May 13 2019 16:32 GMT
#200894
The Tolkien movie is bad? Shame, I wanted to see it :C
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2019 16:50 GMT
#200895
The word on the street is that it has good performances, but lacks in a lot of other ways. Tolkien's story as a writer is one that is hard to capture, especially in the framing of a movie about him loving his wife. From all records he did love his wife a lot, but he confidants in writing were all men. He had really close friendships through his time in higher education that kept it touch through his time serving. And the entire narrative behind the books shaped by his experience in WW1 and his son going to fight in WW2.

And the story behind the book's success in the US is even funnier. Hippies loved his book and its themes of nature vs mechanization and war. A rising of heroes that didn't want to fight, to empower just rulers who would promote peace. All things a stuffy, uptight Brit did not like.

https://www.imaginaryworldspodcast.org/the-hobbits-and-the-hippies.html

J.R.R. Tolkien wanted his work to be taken seriously. But his magnum opus The Lord of the Rings was unlike most literature of the mid-20th century, which was modern. And wasn't The Hobbit a children's book? Critics mused, is this sequel supposed to be serious literature for adults? But there was a group of people who took Middle-earth very seriously and pushed this cult classic into the mainstream. Michael Drout, Gary Lachman and Ethan Gilsdorf explain how and why Tolkien became a folk hero of the counter-culture -- whether he liked it or not.


They should make a rad Netflix animated series out of the The Silmarillion, giving different parts of it to different directors and lead artist.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
May 13 2019 16:57 GMT
#200896
On May 13 2019 23:52 Faruko wrote:
Also they killed the night king, saved mankind and they were like "good"

Wtf? Just that?

Spoilers pls
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Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
May 13 2019 17:07 GMT
#200897
On May 14 2019 01:27 Plansix wrote:
Let us all rejoice that the terrible Tolkien bio-pic bombed.

And that season 2 of Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress will arrive soon. Because that series is filled with dumb and I love it.

oh god not that literal trainwreck
https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 13 2019 17:11 GMT
#200898
On May 14 2019 02:07 2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2019 01:27 Plansix wrote:
Let us all rejoice that the terrible Tolkien bio-pic bombed.

And that season 2 of Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress will arrive soon. Because that series is filled with dumb and I love it.

oh god not that literal trainwreck

This joke is very good and they only wrecked one train during that series. The other train survived, even if none of the towns they passed through made it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 13 2019 17:12 GMT
#200899
I definitely hate getting spoiled on stuff but I also thankfully don't follow anyone who's into the same kinds of games/media that would talk about it.

Although we'll see how many people I end up blocking if/when Trails of Cold Steel IV: End of Evangelion (or whatever the subtitle's gonna be) launches in NA for PC.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
May 13 2019 17:25 GMT
#200900
No one here is going to spoil your weeb games, don't worry.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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