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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
wtf is this shit Never played medusa, than suggesting crap like Manta and MKB and disregarding bfury cause "CLEAVE AINT WORKING ON RANGE!!!!" | ||
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Porkz
Denmark1027 Posts
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
1) PA farms extremely fast if you spam her spells for it and get lucky with crits. Dagger-->Blink-->Crit and you can basically move on to the next camp. AM still has the edge because he doesn't need to run as much though, which is overlooked (I remember some math in a QoP guide that showed early boots weren't that good on her because of Blink). 2) BF is still a strong item without cleave. Not sure about dps when compared to Manta, but you want/need regen. I'm pretty sure it works well in pubs. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:06 Yoshi- wrote: Why exactly is it trolling? I am not saying that it is the best item, but it is still viable. Just because you can only see "CLEAVE DOESN'T WORK ON RANGE", it doesn't mean that it is not viable. 60 damage for 4k + 150% mana regen is really good on medusa. And it is way better than rushing a manta. If the enemy has no single target disables, Bfury is may one of the best starting item. I mean, as a regen/farming item I have a hard time believing that BFury is going to be better than Linken, which is the most typical first item on Medusa. | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:11 Firebolt145 wrote: I remember a thread on playdota many years ago that advocated 5 battlefuries on pitlord. This strategy is wrong. There are not enough battlefuries in it. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
Your illusion will then deal 5 damage with split shot, nice dps. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:23 TheYango wrote: I mean, as a regen/farming item I have a hard time believing that BFury is going to be better than Linken, which is the most typical first item on Medusa. Well, like I when the enemy doesn't have much that gets blocked by linkens, a bfury is totally viable. But yea a linkens is always better, when you can make use of the spell block. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:25 Yoshi- wrote: Well, like I when the enemy doesn't have much that gets blocked by linkens, a bfury is totally viable. But yea a linkens is always better, when you can make use of the spell block. When on earth (apart from terrible pub games) will the enemy not have much that gets blocked by linkens? | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
And even in "good" pub games this could happen. | ||
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:33 EchoZ wrote: You guys knoww anything about hyhy? Did he retire? he mentioned he was, along with maelk i think. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:22 ChrisXIV wrote: I think we are all overreacting a bit here. 1) PA farms extremely fast if you spam her spells for it and get lucky with crits. Dagger-->Blink-->Crit and you can basically move on to the next camp. AM still has the edge because he doesn't need to run as much though, which is overlooked (I remember some math in a QoP guide that showed early boots weren't that good on her because of Blink). 2) BF is still a strong item without cleave. Not sure about dps when compared to Manta, but you want/need regen. I'm pretty sure it works well in pubs. well lvl 1 blink is not always enough if the enemy has some chasing ability and you dont have boots, as its only 700 range and has a large cd | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
You could use the gold you pay for cleave on another item for more dmg | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:44 Ramong wrote: but you pay for the cleave. You could use the gold you pay for cleave on another item for more dmg Okay which other item would you get as a first item on medusa, when linkens spell block is wasted, which also gives damage | ||
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Crissaegrim
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:40 cilinder007 wrote: well lvl 1 blink is not always enough if the enemy has some chasing ability and you dont have boots, as its only 700 range and has a large cd Looked it up, the guide is talking about the lvl 4 Blink. Lvl 1 is pretty bad, yeah, slightly longer than standard attack range, but that's why it's maxed first by most AMs, right? ^^ On September 09 2012 18:46 Crissaegrim wrote: Guys, BF and Linken on medusa is a legit build. Wtf are you guys talking about? Looking at dotabuff.com, BF has a 61.70% win rate whereas Linkens has a 68.43% win rate. Taken together, its a whopping 130.13% chance to win. How can you possibly lose? Dat Bruno reference. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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