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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
September 09 2012 09:11 GMT
#19641
I remember a thread on playdota many years ago that advocated 5 battlefuries on pitlord.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 09 2012 09:13 GMT
#19642
Just go bloodstone like I did on dusa, like 4 years ago
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 09:14:51
September 09 2012 09:13 GMT
#19643
And I am trolling?

wtf is this shit

Never played medusa, than suggesting crap like Manta and MKB and disregarding bfury cause "CLEAVE AINT WORKING ON RANGE!!!!"
Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
September 09 2012 09:20 GMT
#19644
This thread too gud
Great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
September 09 2012 09:22 GMT
#19645
I think we are all overreacting a bit here.

1) PA farms extremely fast if you spam her spells for it and get lucky with crits. Dagger-->Blink-->Crit and you can basically move on to the next camp. AM still has the edge because he doesn't need to run as much though, which is overlooked (I remember some math in a QoP guide that showed early boots weren't that good on her because of Blink).
2) BF is still a strong item without cleave. Not sure about dps when compared to Manta, but you want/need regen. I'm pretty sure it works well in pubs.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 09 2012 09:23 GMT
#19646
On September 09 2012 18:06 Yoshi- wrote:
Why exactly is it trolling?
I am not saying that it is the best item, but it is still viable. Just because you can only see "CLEAVE DOESN'T WORK ON RANGE", it doesn't mean that it is not viable. 60 damage for 4k + 150% mana regen is really good on medusa.
And it is way better than rushing a manta. If the enemy has no single target disables, Bfury is may one of the best starting item.

I mean, as a regen/farming item I have a hard time believing that BFury is going to be better than Linken, which is the most typical first item on Medusa.
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Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
September 09 2012 09:23 GMT
#19647
On September 09 2012 18:11 Firebolt145 wrote:
I remember a thread on playdota many years ago that advocated 5 battlefuries on pitlord.


This strategy is wrong. There are not enough battlefuries in it.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 09 2012 09:24 GMT
#19648
Manta as a first item is just crap, especially on Medusa.
Your illusion will then deal 5 damage with split shot, nice dps.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 09 2012 09:25 GMT
#19649
On September 09 2012 18:23 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 18:06 Yoshi- wrote:
Why exactly is it trolling?
I am not saying that it is the best item, but it is still viable. Just because you can only see "CLEAVE DOESN'T WORK ON RANGE", it doesn't mean that it is not viable. 60 damage for 4k + 150% mana regen is really good on medusa.
And it is way better than rushing a manta. If the enemy has no single target disables, Bfury is may one of the best starting item.

I mean, as a regen/farming item I have a hard time believing that BFury is going to be better than Linken, which is the most typical first item on Medusa.


Well, like I when the enemy doesn't have much that gets blocked by linkens, a bfury is totally viable. But yea a linkens is always better, when you can make use of the spell block.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 09 2012 09:27 GMT
#19650
On September 09 2012 18:25 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 18:23 TheYango wrote:
On September 09 2012 18:06 Yoshi- wrote:
Why exactly is it trolling?
I am not saying that it is the best item, but it is still viable. Just because you can only see "CLEAVE DOESN'T WORK ON RANGE", it doesn't mean that it is not viable. 60 damage for 4k + 150% mana regen is really good on medusa.
And it is way better than rushing a manta. If the enemy has no single target disables, Bfury is may one of the best starting item.

I mean, as a regen/farming item I have a hard time believing that BFury is going to be better than Linken, which is the most typical first item on Medusa.


Well, like I when the enemy doesn't have much that gets blocked by linkens, a bfury is totally viable. But yea a linkens is always better, when you can make use of the spell block.


When on earth (apart from terrible pub games) will the enemy not have much that gets blocked by linkens?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 09:30:09
September 09 2012 09:29 GMT
#19651
The international had couple of games that had no stuns on any hero on one side

And even in "good" pub games this could happen.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
September 09 2012 09:33 GMT
#19652
You guys knoww anything about hyhy? Did he retire?
Dear Sixsmith...
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
September 09 2012 09:38 GMT
#19653
On September 09 2012 18:33 EchoZ wrote:
You guys knoww anything about hyhy? Did he retire?


he mentioned he was, along with maelk i think.

Do yourself a favour and just STFU
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 09 2012 09:40 GMT
#19654
On September 09 2012 18:22 ChrisXIV wrote:
I think we are all overreacting a bit here.

1) PA farms extremely fast if you spam her spells for it and get lucky with crits. Dagger-->Blink-->Crit and you can basically move on to the next camp. AM still has the edge because he doesn't need to run as much though, which is overlooked (I remember some math in a QoP guide that showed early boots weren't that good on her because of Blink).
2) BF is still a strong item without cleave. Not sure about dps when compared to Manta, but you want/need regen. I'm pretty sure it works well in pubs.

well lvl 1 blink is not always enough if the enemy has some chasing ability and you dont have boots, as its only 700 range and has a large cd
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 09 2012 09:44 GMT
#19655
but you pay for the cleave.
You could use the gold you pay for cleave on another item for more dmg
"Yeah buddy"
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 09 2012 09:45 GMT
#19656
On September 09 2012 18:44 Ramong wrote:
but you pay for the cleave.
You could use the gold you pay for cleave on another item for more dmg


Okay which other item would you get as a first item on medusa, when linkens spell block is wasted, which also gives damage
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
September 09 2012 09:46 GMT
#19657
Guys, BF and Linken on medusa is a legit build. Wtf are you guys talking about? Looking at dotabuff.com, BF has a 61.70% win rate whereas Linkens has a 68.43% win rate. Taken together, its a whopping 130.13% chance to win. How can you possibly lose?
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 09:48:12
September 09 2012 09:47 GMT
#19658
On September 09 2012 18:40 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 18:22 ChrisXIV wrote:
I think we are all overreacting a bit here.

1) PA farms extremely fast if you spam her spells for it and get lucky with crits. Dagger-->Blink-->Crit and you can basically move on to the next camp. AM still has the edge because he doesn't need to run as much though, which is overlooked (I remember some math in a QoP guide that showed early boots weren't that good on her because of Blink).
2) BF is still a strong item without cleave. Not sure about dps when compared to Manta, but you want/need regen. I'm pretty sure it works well in pubs.

well lvl 1 blink is not always enough if the enemy has some chasing ability and you dont have boots, as its only 700 range and has a large cd

Looked it up, the guide is talking about the lvl 4 Blink.

Lvl 1 is pretty bad, yeah, slightly longer than standard attack range, but that's why it's maxed first by most AMs, right? ^^
On September 09 2012 18:46 Crissaegrim wrote:
Guys, BF and Linken on medusa is a legit build. Wtf are you guys talking about? Looking at dotabuff.com, BF has a 61.70% win rate whereas Linkens has a 68.43% win rate. Taken together, its a whopping 130.13% chance to win. How can you possibly lose?

Dat Bruno reference.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
September 09 2012 09:56 GMT
#19659
you guys are really bad troll
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
September 09 2012 09:59 GMT
#19660
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