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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 10:43:32
September 09 2012 10:39 GMT
#19681
TBH I kind of want to try Arcanes+HotD when Medusa comes out. You get the HP and mana sustain--less damage, but you can stack camps, which Medusa clears very efficiently with Split Shot + Snake, and you save a slot long-term because you'd get Satanic late game anyway.

Turning Arcanes into Treads/Travels + Bloodstone lategame also just sounds hilarious.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 09 2012 10:39 GMT
#19682
You know what's better than damage? Not dying.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 09 2012 10:42 GMT
#19683
On September 09 2012 19:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
You know what's better than damage? Not dying.

pff I dont agree with that 1 bit
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
September 09 2012 10:45 GMT
#19684
On September 09 2012 19:39 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 19:28 Appendix wrote:
On September 09 2012 19:08 Ramong wrote:
Then get deso with soul ring and tranqboots?
or save for daedalus or mkb?

don't pay for something you can't ever use.



But Tranquil+Soul ring is 1325. The perseverence costs 425 more, and for for 3025 more, you get comparable regen and 65 damage. 65 damage for 3025 gold is pretty good value, more effective than buying claws of attack for the same sum, which has the best dmg to cost ratio otherwise in the game.

well, for 3025 more than pers you are getting only 55 damage remember..


No, you get 55 damage for 2600 compared to perseverence, you get 65 damage for 3025 compared to tranquil+soul ring.

On September 09 2012 19:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
You know what's better than damage? Not dying.


We´re not talking optimal here, we´re talking situational/viable.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 09 2012 10:49 GMT
#19685
On September 09 2012 19:45 Appendix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 19:39 PrinceXizor wrote:
On September 09 2012 19:28 Appendix wrote:
On September 09 2012 19:08 Ramong wrote:
Then get deso with soul ring and tranqboots?
or save for daedalus or mkb?

don't pay for something you can't ever use.



But Tranquil+Soul ring is 1325. The perseverence costs 425 more, and for for 3025 more, you get comparable regen and 65 damage. 65 damage for 3025 gold is pretty good value, more effective than buying claws of attack for the same sum, which has the best dmg to cost ratio otherwise in the game.

well, for 3025 more than pers you are getting only 55 damage remember..


No, you get 55 damage for 2600 compared to perseverence, you get 65 damage for 3025 compared to tranquil+soul ring.

Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 19:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
You know what's better than damage? Not dying.


We´re not talking optimal here, we´re talking situational/viable.

then you need to rework your sentence structure to say what you mean. as it's written you are saying 3025 more than pers.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 10:50:49
September 09 2012 10:50 GMT
#19686
Linkens
Manta
Butterfly
Rapier

Another Rapier

~~
WriterXiao8~~
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 09 2012 10:52 GMT
#19687
On September 09 2012 19:50 Kipsate wrote:
Linkens
Manta
Butterfly
Rapier

Another Rapier

bfury
bfury
bfury
bfury

another bfury

~~

Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 09 2012 10:54 GMT
#19688
Wtf is that only 5 bfuries
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 09 2012 10:54 GMT
#19689
On September 09 2012 19:50 Kipsate wrote:
Linkens
Manta
Butterfly
Rapier

Another Rapier

~~

we're talking about the time you dont need a linkins
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 09 2012 10:54 GMT
#19690
Bfury is the most cost efficient item in the game. Just get 6 of them.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 10:56:32
September 09 2012 10:56 GMT
#19691
To be fair there was a period when you would get like 4 Bfuries on Kunka+Buriza+BoT and 1shot everything., same thing with MAgnataur, only you'd get a blink and a MoM too then. Stack Bfuries on Jugger too.
WriterXiao8~~
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 10:57:50
September 09 2012 10:57 GMT
#19692
The best 6 bfury build was on dark lady in hon.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
September 09 2012 10:59 GMT
#19693
6 bfuries on sven with magnataur empower on him.
Only way to truly cleave.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 09 2012 11:00 GMT
#19694
six bfury sucks u run too slow
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
September 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#19695
On September 09 2012 20:00 Dead9 wrote:
six bfury sucks u run too slow

you dont need to run when they're all dead
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
September 09 2012 11:03 GMT
#19696
Oh Magnus where art thou?



And about PA farming the fastest, of course Shikyo meant with an allied beastmaster and shared unit control, having his hawk fly around for vision.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 11:06:13
September 09 2012 11:03 GMT
#19697
On September 09 2012 19:31 cecek wrote:
First of all, the mkb bug will probably be fixed in Dota 2. Second of all, if you really want the damage, get mealstrom, it's way more cost effective damage, even if the lightning can only proc from primary attacks. All this being said, you really need the manta.... if you go a damage item first, you have no mana and no hp and you die like nothing.... Manta at least gives you decent stats...

Even if the MKB bug is fixed, it's pointless on Medusa because it only checks Evasion on the primary target. The split shots all hit if the primary shot hits. So as long there's at least 1 target without Evasion in range (almost always true, since you could target creeps if there are no evasion-less heroes in range), True Strike is pointless on Medusa.

EDIT: though I guess it's still relevant with regard to Blinds like Troll, Tinker, and Riki smoke, but that's still a lot less relevant cases than all situations involving Talisman of Evasion items.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
September 09 2012 11:06 GMT
#19698
On September 09 2012 20:00 Dead9 wrote:
six bfury sucks u run too slow

That's why you have a dark seer too, so you can vaccum them together for maximum cleavage on demand.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
September 09 2012 11:09 GMT
#19699
With all this Medusa talk I thought we got a patch or something -_-

Also that Phase > Drums build I think TheYango posted on Spectre is amazing. I kinda forgot what comes after that so I went Diffu > Yasha > Manta. Go so fast, gank so hard, max dagger/desolate. Ridiculous amounts of fun. Best way not to piss off my friends when I pick Spectre :D
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#19700
Realistically it's actually not that bad to transition back onto Radiance after an early game teamfight core. Winning fights with Phase+Drums will give you some banked up gold and some farming space with the overall advantage.

It's just more fun to kill people to get your Relic than sitting in lane lasthitting for it.
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