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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 09 2012 09:59 GMT
#19661
On September 09 2012 18:45 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 18:44 Ramong wrote:
but you pay for the cleave.
You could use the gold you pay for cleave on another item for more dmg


Okay which other item would you get as a first item on medusa, when linkens spell block is wasted, which also gives damage

I mean, tbh if you don't want Linken's spell block, she could probably get equivalent regen from having Tranquil + Soul Ring for way less than BFury, and then transition into other items.
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 09 2012 10:01 GMT
#19662
Bfury gives you damage that medusa needs,
Tranq and soul ring gives you absolute nothing, but a bit regen
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 10:06:48
September 09 2012 10:05 GMT
#19663
If you want dmg get desolator if you are starved for dmg, more dmg than Bfury for less gold.


On September 09 2012 19:01 Yoshi- wrote:
Bfury gives you damage that medusa needs,
Tranq and soul ring gives you absolute nothing, but a bit regen

It might give her what she needs, but you are still wasting gold. You are paying for something you won't get, cleave!
Waste of gold!
"Yeah buddy"
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 09 2012 10:07 GMT
#19664
Deso cost 200 gold less, doesn't give you any regen and make you unable to get lifesteal later on
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 10:09:33
September 09 2012 10:08 GMT
#19665
Then get deso with soul ring and tranqboots?
or save for daedalus or mkb?

don't pay for something you can't ever use.

"Yeah buddy"
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 10:10:50
September 09 2012 10:10 GMT
#19666
Why spend over 6k gold on something that you also get with 4k gold?

MKB doesn't work on medusa

And the logic behind bfury is to deal more damage earlier on,
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
September 09 2012 10:10 GMT
#19667
But to be fair, the damage-to-cost ratio is about the same on battlefury as MKB and buriza, only thing is it doesn't offer any true strike, crit or survivability(duh). If you have that perseverence for sustain already, the marginal cost of 2600 for 65 damage is actually very low. Wasn´t there some pro going battlefury on windrunner or something a while back?

All these things considered, I would say battlefury is core on Medusa.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
September 09 2012 10:11 GMT
#19668
PLz continue, it's great entertainment
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
September 09 2012 10:14 GMT
#19669
Honestly, do you get Bfury on drow, clinkz, Shadowfiend, razor or other ranged carries?
"Yeah buddy"
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 09 2012 10:15 GMT
#19670
On September 09 2012 19:14 Ramong wrote:
Honestly, do you get Bfury on drow, clinkz, Shadowfiend, razor or other ranged carries?


I like that logic.
Lets see naga never gets a bfury, so Am should also never get a bfury cause naga doesn't get it.

And there also has been pro games with windrunner and QOP getting a bfury instead of linkens.
Bfury is totally viable on medusa.
Primal666
Profile Joined November 2010
Slovenia418 Posts
September 09 2012 10:17 GMT
#19671
medusa=/naga rageragetrage 2 tottaly diffrent heroes, or am i getting trolled here?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 09 2012 10:18 GMT
#19672
On September 09 2012 19:14 Ramong wrote:
Honestly, do you get Bfury on drow, clinkz, Shadowfiend, razor or other ranged carries?

No but i get it on lina, to make her laguna BLADE cleave, unless I'm against a DK then i just get 1 point in her first spell and then laugh when the enemy loses control of their hero.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
September 09 2012 10:18 GMT
#19673
Wait is medusa even out in dota2?
Dear Sixsmith...
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 09 2012 10:19 GMT
#19674
On September 09 2012 19:17 Primal666 wrote:
medusa=/naga rageragetrage 2 tottaly diffrent heroes, or am i getting trolled here?

Yes two different heroes.

He said that since Drow doesn't get bfury no nother range hero should get bfury.
I said that since naga doesn't get bfury no other melee hero should get bfury
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
September 09 2012 10:28 GMT
#19675
On September 09 2012 19:08 Ramong wrote:
Then get deso with soul ring and tranqboots?
or save for daedalus or mkb?

don't pay for something you can't ever use.



But Tranquil+Soul ring is 1325. The perseverence costs 425 more, and for for 3025 more, you get comparable regen and 65 damage. 65 damage for 3025 gold is pretty good value, more effective than buying claws of attack for the same sum, which has the best dmg to cost ratio otherwise in the game.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 09 2012 10:31 GMT
#19676
First of all, the mkb bug will probably be fixed in Dota 2. Second of all, if you really want the damage, get mealstrom, it's way more cost effective damage, even if the lightning can only proc from primary attacks. All this being said, you really need the manta.... if you go a damage item first, you have no mana and no hp and you die like nothing.... Manta at least gives you decent stats...
super gg
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 10:36:59
September 09 2012 10:35 GMT
#19677
I belive that would be rapier


On September 09 2012 19:31 cecek wrote:
First of all, the mkb bug will probably be fixed in Dota 2. Second of all, if you really want the damage, get mealstrom, it's way more cost effective damage, even if the lightning can only proc from primary attacks. All this being said, you really need the manta.... if you go a damage item first, you have no mana and no hp and you die like nothing.... Manta at least gives you decent stats...

ehm manta as first item, riiiight
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 10:38:16
September 09 2012 10:36 GMT
#19678
Realistically, there are probably some other HP regen + mana regen item combinations that can be smoothly considered when Linken's isn't worth it since the spell block isn't useful (Arcanes + HotD sounds interesting, for example), but Battle Fury doesn't actually sound that bad. There are definitely worse things you could be doing than buying Battle Fury on Medusa.
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 09 2012 10:37 GMT
#19679
Yea that was the entire point, it is not half as bad as it may seems.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 09 2012 10:39 GMT
#19680
On September 09 2012 19:28 Appendix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2012 19:08 Ramong wrote:
Then get deso with soul ring and tranqboots?
or save for daedalus or mkb?

don't pay for something you can't ever use.



But Tranquil+Soul ring is 1325. The perseverence costs 425 more, and for for 3025 more, you get comparable regen and 65 damage. 65 damage for 3025 gold is pretty good value, more effective than buying claws of attack for the same sum, which has the best dmg to cost ratio otherwise in the game.

well, for 3025 more than pers you are getting only 55 damage remember..
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