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United States47024 Posts
On September 09 2012 18:45 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 18:44 Ramong wrote: but you pay for the cleave. You could use the gold you pay for cleave on another item for more dmg Okay which other item would you get as a first item on medusa, when linkens spell block is wasted, which also gives damage I mean, tbh if you don't want Linken's spell block, she could probably get equivalent regen from having Tranquil + Soul Ring for way less than BFury, and then transition into other items.
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Bfury gives you damage that medusa needs, Tranq and soul ring gives you absolute nothing, but a bit regen
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If you want dmg get desolator if you are starved for dmg, more dmg than Bfury for less gold.
On September 09 2012 19:01 Yoshi- wrote: Bfury gives you damage that medusa needs, Tranq and soul ring gives you absolute nothing, but a bit regen It might give her what she needs, but you are still wasting gold. You are paying for something you won't get, cleave! Waste of gold!
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Deso cost 200 gold less, doesn't give you any regen and make you unable to get lifesteal later on
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Then get deso with soul ring and tranqboots? or save for daedalus or mkb?
don't pay for something you can't ever use.
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Why spend over 6k gold on something that you also get with 4k gold?
MKB doesn't work on medusa
And the logic behind bfury is to deal more damage earlier on,
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But to be fair, the damage-to-cost ratio is about the same on battlefury as MKB and buriza, only thing is it doesn't offer any true strike, crit or survivability(duh). If you have that perseverence for sustain already, the marginal cost of 2600 for 65 damage is actually very low. Wasn´t there some pro going battlefury on windrunner or something a while back?
All these things considered, I would say battlefury is core on Medusa.
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PLz continue, it's great entertainment
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Honestly, do you get Bfury on drow, clinkz, Shadowfiend, razor or other ranged carries?
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On September 09 2012 19:14 Ramong wrote: Honestly, do you get Bfury on drow, clinkz, Shadowfiend, razor or other ranged carries?
I like that logic. Lets see naga never gets a bfury, so Am should also never get a bfury cause naga doesn't get it.
And there also has been pro games with windrunner and QOP getting a bfury instead of linkens. Bfury is totally viable on medusa.
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medusa=/naga rageragetrage 2 tottaly diffrent heroes, or am i getting trolled here?
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On September 09 2012 19:14 Ramong wrote: Honestly, do you get Bfury on drow, clinkz, Shadowfiend, razor or other ranged carries? No but i get it on lina, to make her laguna BLADE cleave, unless I'm against a DK then i just get 1 point in her first spell and then laugh when the enemy loses control of their hero.
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Wait is medusa even out in dota2?
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On September 09 2012 19:17 Primal666 wrote: medusa=/naga rageragetrage 2 tottaly diffrent heroes, or am i getting trolled here? Yes two different heroes.
He said that since Drow doesn't get bfury no nother range hero should get bfury. I said that since naga doesn't get bfury no other melee hero should get bfury
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On September 09 2012 19:08 Ramong wrote: Then get deso with soul ring and tranqboots? or save for daedalus or mkb?
don't pay for something you can't ever use.
But Tranquil+Soul ring is 1325. The perseverence costs 425 more, and for for 3025 more, you get comparable regen and 65 damage. 65 damage for 3025 gold is pretty good value, more effective than buying claws of attack for the same sum, which has the best dmg to cost ratio otherwise in the game.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
First of all, the mkb bug will probably be fixed in Dota 2. Second of all, if you really want the damage, get mealstrom, it's way more cost effective damage, even if the lightning can only proc from primary attacks. All this being said, you really need the manta.... if you go a damage item first, you have no mana and no hp and you die like nothing.... Manta at least gives you decent stats...
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I belive that would be rapier
On September 09 2012 19:31 cecek wrote: First of all, the mkb bug will probably be fixed in Dota 2. Second of all, if you really want the damage, get mealstrom, it's way more cost effective damage, even if the lightning can only proc from primary attacks. All this being said, you really need the manta.... if you go a damage item first, you have no mana and no hp and you die like nothing.... Manta at least gives you decent stats... ehm manta as first item, riiiight
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United States47024 Posts
Realistically, there are probably some other HP regen + mana regen item combinations that can be smoothly considered when Linken's isn't worth it since the spell block isn't useful (Arcanes + HotD sounds interesting, for example), but Battle Fury doesn't actually sound that bad. There are definitely worse things you could be doing than buying Battle Fury on Medusa.
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Yea that was the entire point, it is not half as bad as it may seems.
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On September 09 2012 19:28 Appendix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 19:08 Ramong wrote: Then get deso with soul ring and tranqboots? or save for daedalus or mkb?
don't pay for something you can't ever use.
But Tranquil+Soul ring is 1325. The perseverence costs 425 more, and for for 3025 more, you get comparable regen and 65 damage. 65 damage for 3025 gold is pretty good value, more effective than buying claws of attack for the same sum, which has the best dmg to cost ratio otherwise in the game. well, for 3025 more than pers you are getting only 55 damage remember..
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