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On September 09 2012 07:13 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 06:49 Slomo wrote:
Just randomed PA and realised that your illusions from the rune blink with you if you use shadow strike.
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TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE DAMAGE
The dude who is only playing PA: How do you skill her? Me? I actually just started trying AM. First game awful, can't do anything whole game despite 17min BF, die to every gank, can't do anything in teamfights, PA like 500 times better -.- Let's see if I can make him work at all. Oh yeah and AM farms slower than PA: Depends. If it's AFK farm lane you probably don't even need Q or E early and can go with 1 in blink and rest stats(like 3 times), skipping ult at 6. Normally I guess it'll be QWQEQRQ and then you max W and stats a few times and then max E, but you can also get a few levels of stats before maxing W. . . And yeah hopefully I'll figure something out but for now PA feels way stronger than AM.
1. How do you die to ganks as am but survive as PA
2. You cant really 5v5 team fight with am without stats or a manta style
3. 17 min battlefury is ok but its not the greatest
4. AM farming slower than PA made me chuckle. Try picking up a QB after the battlefury for massive damage increase
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in what mmr does pa farm faster then am
news to me
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On September 09 2012 07:53 FinestHour wrote:
in what mmr does pa farm faster then am
news to me
Mariana trench bracket
Jk.
But yea, AMs mobility is pretty unmatched. And his surviveability stays regardless of the enemy getting an mkb because his is anti-spell damage. Ontop of that his low BAT makes him scale pretty damn well,his overall DPS will be lower than a PAs if they are equal in farm and standing still whacking on something, but AM has more mobility and will have items faster than PA, making him a lot better.
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Wow. I was in low priority matchmaking for 24h because of my crappy connexion, so I waited 2 days before coming back to the game... And I'm still in low priority oO How does this work ???
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I'm guessing in pubs AM isn't nearly as good because apparently people know that he's really strong when he manages to get farmed up so they're going to 5man gank your jungle repeatedly and generally your team isn't going to be of much help.
I still managed to carry this game but the farm I got was just atrocious(276 at 45min) due to having to run away most of the game >_<
On September 09 2012 07:53 FinestHour wrote:
in what mmr does pa farm faster then am
news to me
Well she clears waves faster and clears jungle faster...Doesn't cover ground as quickly without any allies or such, though. (Assuming treads for AM and phase for PA though btw, or should AM go phase?
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No, PA does not clear jungle faster than AM since AM moves a lot faster trough it than her.
Mobility is just as important as damage for farming fast.
AM also moves from jungle into lane and back into jungle a lot faster, his farming rate is factually faster than PAs.
This is something you'd be able to measure.
Give AM boots and BF and PA boots and BF and AM will earn gold faster.
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On September 09 2012 08:16 Unleashing wrote:
No, PA does not clear jungle faster than AM since AM moves a lot faster trough it than her.
Mobility is just as important as damage for farming fast.
Well PA clears the whole jungle faster is the thing... That is until AM gets his manta or such, but with just a naked BF as damage items PA is faster.
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On September 09 2012 08:17 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 08:16 Unleashing wrote:
No, PA does not clear jungle faster than AM since AM moves a lot faster trough it than her.
Mobility is just as important as damage for farming fast. Well PA clears the whole jungle faster is the thing... That is until AM gets his manta or such, but with just a naked BF as damage items PA is faster.
No she isn't.
AM doesn't need manta to farm faster than a PA if he has his bfury.
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1-1-1-1 PMS Bfury QB AM, max blink by 10/when you get Bfury.
works like a charm
AM farms way faster then PA because of Blink basically.
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AM farms way faster than anyone because of blink basically lol.
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On September 09 2012 08:13 Shikyo wrote:I'm guessing in pubs AM isn't nearly as good because apparently people know that he's really strong when he manages to get farmed up so they're going to 5man gank your jungle repeatedly and generally your team isn't going to be of much help. I still managed to carry this game but the farm I got was just atrocious(276 at 45min) due to having to run away most of the game >_< Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 07:53 FinestHour wrote:
in what mmr does pa farm faster then am
news to me Well she clears waves faster and clears jungle faster...Doesn't cover ground as quickly without any allies or such, though. (Assuming treads for AM and phase for PA though btw, or should AM go phase?
Treads is the standard on AM.
You also need to learn how to control the lane better. Autoing your own creeps so the lane doesn't push is very important as antimage.
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On September 09 2012 08:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 08:13 Shikyo wrote:I'm guessing in pubs AM isn't nearly as good because apparently people know that he's really strong when he manages to get farmed up so they're going to 5man gank your jungle repeatedly and generally your team isn't going to be of much help. I still managed to carry this game but the farm I got was just atrocious(276 at 45min) due to having to run away most of the game >_< On September 09 2012 07:53 FinestHour wrote:
in what mmr does pa farm faster then am
news to me Well she clears waves faster and clears jungle faster...Doesn't cover ground as quickly without any allies or such, though. (Assuming treads for AM and phase for PA though btw, or should AM go phase? Treads is the standard on AM.
Tranq can be an option too btw(sometimes it can be really good) but usually Treads.
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Maybe shikyo is pro enough to ward his entire jungle for sight, in which case PA actually would farm marginally faster than AM before AM gets a Manta. GET ON HIS LEVEL GUYS
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On September 09 2012 08:36 Kupon3ss wrote:
Maybe shikyo is pro enough to ward his entire jungle for sight, in which case PA actually would farm marginally faster than AM before AM gets a Manta. GET ON HIS LEVEL GUYS
No, because even then AM can jump up and down cliffs a lot faster and get from lane to jungle to ancients and back to lane a LOT faster than PA can dream to do it.
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On September 09 2012 08:36 Kupon3ss wrote:
Maybe shikyo is pro enough to ward his entire jungle for sight, in which case PA actually would farm marginally faster than AM before AM gets a Manta. GET ON HIS LEVEL GUYS
Thats some next level shit. But seriously pick up a qb on am after you get your battlefury.
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On September 09 2012 07:51 Spicy_Curry wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 07:13 Shikyo wrote:On September 09 2012 06:49 Slomo wrote:
Just randomed PA and realised that your illusions from the rune blink with you if you use shadow strike.
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TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE DAMAGE
The dude who is only playing PA: How do you skill her? Me? I actually just started trying AM. First game awful, can't do anything whole game despite 17min BF, die to every gank, can't do anything in teamfights, PA like 500 times better -.- Let's see if I can make him work at all. Oh yeah and AM farms slower than PA: Depends. If it's AFK farm lane you probably don't even need Q or E early and can go with 1 in blink and rest stats(like 3 times), skipping ult at 6. Normally I guess it'll be QWQEQRQ and then you max W and stats a few times and then max E, but you can also get a few levels of stats before maxing W. . . And yeah hopefully I'll figure something out but for now PA feels way stronger than AM. 1. How do you die to ganks as am but survive as PA 2. You cant really 5v5 team fight with am without stats or a manta style 3. 17 min battlefury is ok but its not the greatest 4. AM farming slower than PA made me chuckle. Try picking up a QB after the battlefury for massive damage increase
May be PA is just his hero. We shall call him the PA man from now on.
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You won the second game because their team has zero late game. I would suggest you get a BKB when their entire team can be countered by it though. Manta -> BKB instead of heart would have allowed you to kill their entire team since none of them can damage you anymore. They weren't pushing so you didn't need to be in a hurry. If they had any idea how bad their team comp was at late game ^_^
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On September 09 2012 08:38 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 07:51 Spicy_Curry wrote:On September 09 2012 07:13 Shikyo wrote:On September 09 2012 06:49 Slomo wrote:
Just randomed PA and realised that your illusions from the rune blink with you if you use shadow strike.
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TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE DAMAGE
The dude who is only playing PA: How do you skill her? Me? I actually just started trying AM. First game awful, can't do anything whole game despite 17min BF, die to every gank, can't do anything in teamfights, PA like 500 times better -.- Let's see if I can make him work at all. Oh yeah and AM farms slower than PA: Depends. If it's AFK farm lane you probably don't even need Q or E early and can go with 1 in blink and rest stats(like 3 times), skipping ult at 6. Normally I guess it'll be QWQEQRQ and then you max W and stats a few times and then max E, but you can also get a few levels of stats before maxing W. . . And yeah hopefully I'll figure something out but for now PA feels way stronger than AM. 1. How do you die to ganks as am but survive as PA 2. You cant really 5v5 team fight with am without stats or a manta style 3. 17 min battlefury is ok but its not the greatest 4. AM farming slower than PA made me chuckle. Try picking up a QB after the battlefury for massive damage increase May be PA is just his hero. We shall call him the PA man from now on.
PAIKYO!
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On September 09 2012 08:41 Spicy_Curry wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2012 08:38 BurningSera wrote:On September 09 2012 07:51 Spicy_Curry wrote:On September 09 2012 07:13 Shikyo wrote:On September 09 2012 06:49 Slomo wrote:
Just randomed PA and realised that your illusions from the rune blink with you if you use shadow strike.
=
TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE DAMAGE
The dude who is only playing PA: How do you skill her? Me? I actually just started trying AM. First game awful, can't do anything whole game despite 17min BF, die to every gank, can't do anything in teamfights, PA like 500 times better -.- Let's see if I can make him work at all. Oh yeah and AM farms slower than PA: Depends. If it's AFK farm lane you probably don't even need Q or E early and can go with 1 in blink and rest stats(like 3 times), skipping ult at 6. Normally I guess it'll be QWQEQRQ and then you max W and stats a few times and then max E, but you can also get a few levels of stats before maxing W. . . And yeah hopefully I'll figure something out but for now PA feels way stronger than AM. 1. How do you die to ganks as am but survive as PA 2. You cant really 5v5 team fight with am without stats or a manta style 3. 17 min battlefury is ok but its not the greatest 4. AM farming slower than PA made me chuckle. Try picking up a QB after the battlefury for massive damage increase May be PA is just his hero. We shall call him the PA man from now on. PAIKYO!
GO PAIKYO.
btw, the only truly manly way to play PA is rushing divine. 1 crit 1 hero.
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hahhaha... i think if i start picking pudge, u guys might call me male hooker =)
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