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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
August 30 2012 12:04 GMT
#18361
LongDD is ShortDD :D
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
August 30 2012 12:37 GMT
#18362
On August 29 2012 12:00 Nevuk wrote:
Interesting, about the international, the hero stats for it. It's fun to look at but if you don't want to be spoiled scroll to the bottom rapidly.

http://dota-academy.com/tournament/58/

The most banned/picked hero isn't Naga, it's DS. Naga/Lycan/Ds/BrM/NP is the order of number of bans, and after DS the number falls way off (he has 88 and Brood has 66). Naga/Lycan are banned more but played less. The most played/banned heroes after Naga and DS are Rubick, Lesh, Lycan, Chen, Invoker. Rubick/Lesh both have high winrates and low rates of being banned. Naga is 2 for 7 in games where she's actually played.

I want to write something sorta briefish up about this and post it in a separate thread for all the people complaining about morph and etc.

Their statistics are somehow messed up. There were only 112 games played. No way DS could have been banned + picked for a total of 114 times.

16 teams play 14 games each. Halve that number for repetition. 8*14 = 112.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 12:42:03
August 30 2012 12:40 GMT
#18363
On August 30 2012 21:37 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 12:00 Nevuk wrote:
Interesting, about the international, the hero stats for it. It's fun to look at but if you don't want to be spoiled scroll to the bottom rapidly.

http://dota-academy.com/tournament/58/

The most banned/picked hero isn't Naga, it's DS. Naga/Lycan/Ds/BrM/NP is the order of number of bans, and after DS the number falls way off (he has 88 and Brood has 66). Naga/Lycan are banned more but played less. The most played/banned heroes after Naga and DS are Rubick, Lesh, Lycan, Chen, Invoker. Rubick/Lesh both have high winrates and low rates of being banned. Naga is 2 for 7 in games where she's actually played.

I want to write something sorta briefish up about this and post it in a separate thread for all the people complaining about morph and etc.

Their statistics are somehow messed up. There were only 112 games played. No way DS could have been banned + picked for a total of 114 times.

16 teams play 14 games each. Halve that number for repetition. 8*14 = 112.


Yes this bothered me for AGES. Then I found out it included the mouz vs WE games and it all made sense (115 games).

And the thing that annoys me about Morphling is that he can start morphing strength while he's disabled or banished. Not so sure if you could do this in Dota 1.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 30 2012 12:42 GMT
#18364
Aha, the pre-prelim games. Sneaky
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 30 2012 12:43 GMT
#18365


icefrog?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 30 2012 12:46 GMT
#18366
On August 30 2012 21:37 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 12:00 Nevuk wrote:
Interesting, about the international, the hero stats for it. It's fun to look at but if you don't want to be spoiled scroll to the bottom rapidly.

http://dota-academy.com/tournament/58/

The most banned/picked hero isn't Naga, it's DS. Naga/Lycan/Ds/BrM/NP is the order of number of bans, and after DS the number falls way off (he has 88 and Brood has 66). Naga/Lycan are banned more but played less. The most played/banned heroes after Naga and DS are Rubick, Lesh, Lycan, Chen, Invoker. Rubick/Lesh both have high winrates and low rates of being banned. Naga is 2 for 7 in games where she's actually played.

I want to write something sorta briefish up about this and post it in a separate thread for all the people complaining about morph and etc.

Their statistics are somehow messed up. There were only 112 games played. No way DS could have been banned + picked for a total of 114 times.

16 teams play 14 games each. Halve that number for repetition. 8*14 = 112.

mouz vs we counted i think... those are 2 games mouz won
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 30 2012 13:24 GMT
#18367
On August 30 2012 21:46 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:37 flamewheel wrote:
On August 29 2012 12:00 Nevuk wrote:
Interesting, about the international, the hero stats for it. It's fun to look at but if you don't want to be spoiled scroll to the bottom rapidly.

http://dota-academy.com/tournament/58/

The most banned/picked hero isn't Naga, it's DS. Naga/Lycan/Ds/BrM/NP is the order of number of bans, and after DS the number falls way off (he has 88 and Brood has 66). Naga/Lycan are banned more but played less. The most played/banned heroes after Naga and DS are Rubick, Lesh, Lycan, Chen, Invoker. Rubick/Lesh both have high winrates and low rates of being banned. Naga is 2 for 7 in games where she's actually played.

I want to write something sorta briefish up about this and post it in a separate thread for all the people complaining about morph and etc.

Their statistics are somehow messed up. There were only 112 games played. No way DS could have been banned + picked for a total of 114 times.

16 teams play 14 games each. Halve that number for repetition. 8*14 = 112.

mouz vs we counted i think... those are 2 games mouz won

Yeah, there were a total of 114 (or was it 115? can't remember if mouz 2-0 or 2-1'd) as they counted Mouz vs WE as part of the tournament.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
August 30 2012 13:25 GMT
#18368
Mouz 3-0, it was BO5 Mouz vs WE
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 30 2012 13:26 GMT
#18369
Mouz - WE was a bo5 and mouz won 3-0.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 30 2012 13:27 GMT
#18370
On August 30 2012 21:40 The Great Taste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:37 flamewheel wrote:
On August 29 2012 12:00 Nevuk wrote:
Interesting, about the international, the hero stats for it. It's fun to look at but if you don't want to be spoiled scroll to the bottom rapidly.

http://dota-academy.com/tournament/58/

The most banned/picked hero isn't Naga, it's DS. Naga/Lycan/Ds/BrM/NP is the order of number of bans, and after DS the number falls way off (he has 88 and Brood has 66). Naga/Lycan are banned more but played less. The most played/banned heroes after Naga and DS are Rubick, Lesh, Lycan, Chen, Invoker. Rubick/Lesh both have high winrates and low rates of being banned. Naga is 2 for 7 in games where she's actually played.

I want to write something sorta briefish up about this and post it in a separate thread for all the people complaining about morph and etc.

Their statistics are somehow messed up. There were only 112 games played. No way DS could have been banned + picked for a total of 114 times.

16 teams play 14 games each. Halve that number for repetition. 8*14 = 112.


Yes this bothered me for AGES. Then I found out it included the mouz vs WE games and it all made sense (115 games).

And the thing that annoys me about Morphling is that he can start morphing strength while he's disabled or banished. Not so sure if you could do this in Dota 1.

You could do it in DotA.
super gg
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 30 2012 13:31 GMT
#18371
Morph was buffed pretty hard last version, expect a reverse nerf to fix him in 6.75
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 13:33:36
August 30 2012 13:32 GMT
#18372
On August 30 2012 22:27 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 21:40 The Great Taste wrote:
On August 30 2012 21:37 flamewheel wrote:
On August 29 2012 12:00 Nevuk wrote:
Interesting, about the international, the hero stats for it. It's fun to look at but if you don't want to be spoiled scroll to the bottom rapidly.

http://dota-academy.com/tournament/58/

The most banned/picked hero isn't Naga, it's DS. Naga/Lycan/Ds/BrM/NP is the order of number of bans, and after DS the number falls way off (he has 88 and Brood has 66). Naga/Lycan are banned more but played less. The most played/banned heroes after Naga and DS are Rubick, Lesh, Lycan, Chen, Invoker. Rubick/Lesh both have high winrates and low rates of being banned. Naga is 2 for 7 in games where she's actually played.

I want to write something sorta briefish up about this and post it in a separate thread for all the people complaining about morph and etc.

Their statistics are somehow messed up. There were only 112 games played. No way DS could have been banned + picked for a total of 114 times.

16 teams play 14 games each. Halve that number for repetition. 8*14 = 112.


Yes this bothered me for AGES. Then I found out it included the mouz vs WE games and it all made sense (115 games).

And the thing that annoys me about Morphling is that he can start morphing strength while he's disabled or banished. Not so sure if you could do this in Dota 1.

You could do it in DotA.



still needs to change. morphling is one of the hardest,if not the hardest to kill carry out there. stopping morph while disabled would just bring him in line a bit more.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
August 30 2012 13:45 GMT
#18373
Don't really think Morphling has proven himself to need a nerf just yet...
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
August 30 2012 15:21 GMT
#18374
Morph doesn't really need a nerf. The hero needs to be dealt with like an anti-mage or lycan and most captains arent drafting for that. Instead they try to outpush and end the game quickly. The chinese have shown that they are able to stop these pushes and thus Morphling has become strong. Most of the games where the chinese played him, any other carry wouldve done the same thing. If anything, just halve the 6.74 change.
High Risk Low Reward
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 30 2012 15:23 GMT
#18375
On August 30 2012 22:45 rob.au wrote:
Don't really think Morphling has proven himself to need a nerf just yet...


I think a 'neff' like a silence or stun should stop his morph for split seconds is justified. The hero has 3.5 built in escape mechanisms after all.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 30 2012 15:25 GMT
#18376
On August 31 2012 00:23 paralleluniverse wrote:
WTF.

Why Dota 2? It's a bad game where only 25 heroes are used like 95% of the time in competitive play.

Oh lordhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=364639&currentpage=3#44
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 30 2012 15:26 GMT
#18377
I think they should remove sc2, only 3 races are competitive viable.
What an unbalanced game
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 30 2012 15:30 GMT
#18378
I just wana say: I have been here before this was main stream!
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 30 2012 15:37 GMT
#18379
On August 31 2012 00:25 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 00:23 paralleluniverse wrote:
WTF.

Why Dota 2? It's a bad game where only 25 heroes are used like 95% of the time in competitive play.

Oh lordhttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=364639&currentpage=3#44


He's still here?

HAHAAHHA
ffxiv enjoyer
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
August 30 2012 15:44 GMT
#18380
On August 31 2012 00:30 NB wrote:
I just wana say: I have been here before this was main stream!


I've been trying to decide between Dota2 and LoL.

Played a little of both but this has made the decision for me. TL is WIN
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
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