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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 25 2014 17:27 GMT
#125181
Iunno wr is like squishy low mana super unreliable i can't play that hero. The upside is KIIIINDA there but its like 3x harder than rubick for no bigger upside so I don't play her.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 25 2014 17:31 GMT
#125182
Dude that last hitting animation is totally a reason to play her. And the shackle is amazing if you can hit it. But only as an offlaner, I can't play her as support. There are just better heroes that function better with less gold.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 17:39:47
August 25 2014 17:32 GMT
#125183
If you have a 100+ games hero with <35% winrate, you need to check what's wrong with the way you play. Practice makes perfect, but if you practice the wrong way you're just going to keep losing

on WR: she's just not reliable enough. Bad as 5th, there are better mids. She might be more popular if people try her ult out more but so far she's just not that good, though I fucking love everything about her (abilities, design, voice, everything)
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7080 Posts
August 25 2014 17:37 GMT
#125184
i have a <30% winrate on Alchemist Furion and Storm Spirit all with 15~ games played :S
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
August 25 2014 17:40 GMT
#125185
28.6% with Meepo and he's in my 10 most played heroes.
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 17:46:44
August 25 2014 17:43 GMT
#125186
On August 26 2014 02:40 Firebolt145 wrote:
28.6% with Meepo and he's in my 10 most played heroes.


yeah but you're firebolt

On August 26 2014 02:37 tehh4ck3r wrote:
i have a <30% winrate on Alchemist Furion and Storm Spirit all with 15~ games played :S


Alch - stop playing him as support, don't play greedy as a carry, check out the mid phase->medallion->blink build Singsing used to do
Storm - idk I suck at this hero, watch Blitz
Furion - copy the Maelstorm Blink build, never lose again

edit: I have 33 games with 30% winrate as Ogre Magi. Starting to think roaming Ogre doesn't work out so well.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
August 25 2014 17:46 GMT
#125187
On August 26 2014 02:40 Firebolt145 wrote:
28.6% with Meepo and he's in my 10 most played heroes.


it is always the fault of your team?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 25 2014 17:48 GMT
#125188
On August 26 2014 02:40 Firebolt145 wrote:
28.6% with Meepo and he's in my 10 most played heroes.


Meepo also exists in this weird world where he goes directly from:

You have no idea how to play him “correctly” -> The enemy team has no idea how to stop him.

There isn't a lot of middle of the road.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 25 2014 17:52 GMT
#125189
do people really watch blitz to learn how to play storm though?
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 25 2014 17:52 GMT
#125190
Dendi just picked up Aghs on Sky. Confirmed for viable item.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-25 17:58:08
August 25 2014 17:57 GMT
#125191
On August 26 2014 02:40 Firebolt145 wrote:
28.6% with Meepo and he's in my 10 most played heroes.

37% with invoker and a top 10 hero iirc for me.

(not the best hero to play when you have < 300 games played)

This navi vp game just shows how behind CIS dota is right now.
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 25 2014 17:59 GMT
#125192
Still doing better than NAdota outside of EG.

Actually, don't know how EG's doing right now. Have they played an official match with Fear yet?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
August 25 2014 18:01 GMT
#125193
On August 26 2014 02:21 Shaella wrote:
is this the thread where we talk about our horrible winrate heros that we play too much

32% winrate Windrunner is my favorite, like i get bad teams all the time with every hero, it just happens. Some games i win cause i stomp a bad player on the other team, some games my botlane feeds witchdoctor 5 kills in 10 minutes.

But Those windrunner games are the most amazing

I feel your pain bro.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 25 2014 18:02 GMT
#125194
On August 26 2014 03:01 Slomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 02:21 Shaella wrote:
is this the thread where we talk about our horrible winrate heros that we play too much

32% winrate Windrunner is my favorite, like i get bad teams all the time with every hero, it just happens. Some games i win cause i stomp a bad player on the other team, some games my botlane feeds witchdoctor 5 kills in 10 minutes.

But Those windrunner games are the most amazing

I feel your pain bro.

Basically u should just play venge every game lel
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 25 2014 18:03 GMT
#125195
Nope, no full match with Fear. But as long as he has slightly more than zero impact on the game, it will be a marked improvement.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 25 2014 18:03 GMT
#125196
My only top heroes without positive winrates are QoP (who I sadly still suck with), Batrider (who's just 44% and who I only learned recently), and Nature's Prophet (who I use to get out of LPQ).
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 25 2014 18:03 GMT
#125197
venge is such a cool hero
i just wish she had more range ;o;
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 25 2014 18:04 GMT
#125198
On August 26 2014 03:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 03:01 Slomo wrote:
On August 26 2014 02:21 Shaella wrote:
is this the thread where we talk about our horrible winrate heros that we play too much

32% winrate Windrunner is my favorite, like i get bad teams all the time with every hero, it just happens. Some games i win cause i stomp a bad player on the other team, some games my botlane feeds witchdoctor 5 kills in 10 minutes.

But Those windrunner games are the most amazing

I feel your pain bro.

Basically u should just play venge every game lel

There is nothing wrong with that life choice. If you could also do it in every game I play LC, that would be amazing. All I need is one good stun and some minus armor.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 25 2014 18:05 GMT
#125199
Although, if we're talking about funny statistics... I'm undefeated on Dazzle, and have absolutely no idea how to play the hero. Six games where I futzed around with heals and my team carried me to victory. It's pretty amusing.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 25 2014 18:05 GMT
#125200
Meh analysis of my dotabuff page simply reveals that I suck at SD, that I was a Spirit Breaker abuser at one point, and that LC is OP. Everything else is pretty null. Oh, and I don't play enough dota these days.
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