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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 22 2014 15:08 GMT
#124601
Apparently the problem is that the bracket doesn't fully display. If you do a Find for Group 32, then the whole thing displays, but otherwise it cuts off after group 12. And it only ever shows like 7 groups at a time. So it's shitty web design rather than incomplete information.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 22 2014 15:09 GMT
#124602
On August 23 2014 00:01 Acritter wrote:
I think all of Valve's servers are literally unplayable right now. USE and EUW at least are having the same constant disconnect-from-Steam problem. It's great being in a teamfight and seeing everyone start moonwalking for about 10-15 seconds before the game lets you know you've been disc'd.
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:25 teddyoojo wrote:
wat arent u in germany

Nah, northeast US.


USW works fine fo rme
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 22 2014 15:10 GMT
#124603
On August 22 2014 23:57 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Interesting to see that on RBBG's bracket, Bunny and Snute are apparently from Mexico. Unless most people are playing under pseudonyms, I recognize about 12 of these players.

See if you can figure out which race is OP now, because everyone loves that discussion.(hint, is always protoss. Thank Idra).

its literally always protoss
except for the patchzerg time, its almost unreal to think there was a time where protoss wasnt by far the best race.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 22 2014 15:13 GMT
#124604
There were also the Terran times, way long ago, back when in the dinosaur times before anyone knew how to build range Collosus and cannons.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2014 15:13 GMT
#124605
On August 23 2014 00:10 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:57 Plansix wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Interesting to see that on RBBG's bracket, Bunny and Snute are apparently from Mexico. Unless most people are playing under pseudonyms, I recognize about 12 of these players.

See if you can figure out which race is OP now, because everyone loves that discussion.(hint, is always protoss. Thank Idra).

its literally always protoss
except for the patchzerg time, its almost unreal to think there was a time where protoss wasnt by far the best race.

PROTOS OP FOR LIFE, SON!

Yeah, after 4 years of "remove forcefields, redesign warpgate, fix Amove deathball" I had to not go to TL prime any more. Everyone was just regurgitating the same dumb arguments, it was like the human centipede of balance arguments.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 15:13:53
August 22 2014 15:13 GMT
#124606
fuck you ld and your crazy double posting
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 15:14:30
August 22 2014 15:13 GMT
#124607
On August 23 2014 00:10 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:57 Plansix wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Interesting to see that on RBBG's bracket, Bunny and Snute are apparently from Mexico. Unless most people are playing under pseudonyms, I recognize about 12 of these players.

See if you can figure out which race is OP now, because everyone loves that discussion.(hint, is always protoss. Thank Idra).

its literally always protoss
except for the patchzerg time, its almost unreal to think there was a time where protoss wasnt by far the best race.


Protoss won the least number of titles on Wol iirc, they just seemed good because toss was and always has been garbage at QQing about how weak their race is to get buffs.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 22 2014 15:13 GMT
#124608
are u drunk
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 15:17:22
August 22 2014 15:16 GMT
#124609
I think for a long time many of the Korean players were pursuing suboptimal playstyles, and the ones who weren't weren't as good. Basically everyone wanted to be MC even though only MC could do that. If more people had done the deathball thing, instead of being seduced by 4-gate aggression, Protoss probably would have had more success.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 22 2014 15:17 GMT
#124610
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments

scroll down to WoL, basically the first half of 2014 is the only period in which toss actually dominated

When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 22 2014 15:17 GMT
#124611
On August 23 2014 00:13 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:10 teddyoojo wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:57 Plansix wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Interesting to see that on RBBG's bracket, Bunny and Snute are apparently from Mexico. Unless most people are playing under pseudonyms, I recognize about 12 of these players.

See if you can figure out which race is OP now, because everyone loves that discussion.(hint, is always protoss. Thank Idra).

its literally always protoss
except for the patchzerg time, its almost unreal to think there was a time where protoss wasnt by far the best race.


Protoss won the least number of titles on Wol iirc, they just seemed good because toss was and always has been garbage at QQing about how weak their race is to get buffs.

They weren't used to it after BW.

(I'm mainly talking about the D- - C+ level of play though)
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2014 15:21 GMT
#124612
On August 23 2014 00:17 Kupon3ss wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments

scroll down to WoL, basically the first half of 2014 is the only period in which toss actually dominated


But thats the era where Terrans truly perfected the art of the balance whine. Thread after thread about the socioeconomic factors of being a terran and being driven from the ladder due to the emotion damage of being beaten by lesser plays and the long terms effects on their college prospects. It was a sight to see.

And then that piece of crap came out about the era of PvZ craft and I checked the fuck out of TL.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 15:26:50
August 22 2014 15:25 GMT
#124613
While terrans were probably more individually talented at balance whine, the problem is that they didn't have the teamwork to see the work through since every top terran had different things to whine about. Despite the overall skill gap between the T v Z whine matchup, Zergs ended up victorious by unifying as a race their QQ to create a game where the Zerg is expected to 1. always have the econ advantage, 2. always have free, perfect scouting, 3. has the strongest lategame composition.

To a point where blizzard basically gave up and said fuck it new game.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 22 2014 15:28 GMT
#124614
On August 23 2014 00:25 Kupon3ss wrote:
While terrans were probably more individually talented at balance whine, the problem is that they didn't have the teamwork to see the work through since every top terran had different things to whine about. Despite the overall skill gap between the T v Z whine matchup, Zergs ended up victorious by unifying as a race their QQ to create a game where the Zerg is expected to 1. always have the econ advantage, 2. always have free, perfect scouting, 3. has the strongest lategame composition.

To a point where blizzard basically gave up and said fuck it new game.

the truth
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 22 2014 15:33 GMT
#124615
On August 23 2014 00:13 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:10 teddyoojo wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:57 Plansix wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Interesting to see that on RBBG's bracket, Bunny and Snute are apparently from Mexico. Unless most people are playing under pseudonyms, I recognize about 12 of these players.

See if you can figure out which race is OP now, because everyone loves that discussion.(hint, is always protoss. Thank Idra).

its literally always protoss
except for the patchzerg time, its almost unreal to think there was a time where protoss wasnt by far the best race.


Protoss won the least number of titles on Wol iirc, they just seemed good because toss was and always has been garbage at QQing about how weak their race is to get buffs.

You're correct. 'toss had at best a few months of dominance every time a player came out with a cool new build. Terran was extremely broken towards the start of WoL (mostly due to maps), and then Zerg was getting pretty broken towards the end. There was never an extended time where it was Protoss everywhere.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2014 15:35 GMT
#124616
Protoss lots their footing the the balance whine war once the collective argument became that warpgate and forcefields were horrible flawed things that ruined lifes and destroyed relationships. After that, any attempt to complain about balance would be derailed by design discussions. Its a blow they never recovered from.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 22 2014 15:35 GMT
#124617
protoss was always the easiest race by far which made it the most ridiculous race
literally a mentally retarded chipmunk with 3 fingers and no belly button could play toss into GM

which made the game so unbelievably frustrating
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 15:37:17
August 22 2014 15:36 GMT
#124618
GM isn't actually good though, esp. not like NA or EU
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 22 2014 15:37 GMT
#124619
On August 23 2014 00:36 Kupon3ss wrote:
GM isn't actually good though

You can get their by 6 pooling. Its been proven over and over = Winning a bo1 is easy. Being good at Sc2 is hard.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 15:39:05
August 22 2014 15:38 GMT
#124620
Is there really 325000 people watching YYF stream atm ? :-o (and looking at this page, is this really the DOTA2 General ? xD)
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