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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 19 2014 00:39 GMT
#123761
On August 19 2014 09:35 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 09:28 icystorage wrote:
Lina needs less clothes like superior moba

this is the only change about her i can approve

Fuck that, they need to change her animation so she looks as cool as she does in the load screens. Right now, she just floats there, like she is riding some invisible horse.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 00:45:28
August 19 2014 00:40 GMT
#123762
I tell you what, Zeus is probably my most hated hero when I'm a support. Deward wars when the enemy Zeus gives a shit are the most depressing thing ever.

Thankfully most zeus players seem to consider dewarding beneath them, but the occasional guy who realises he has a free gem when i'm still scraping together boots makes me want to uninstall. And then when he gets aghs refresher he can kill me whenever he feels like it just to rub it in some more.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
August 19 2014 00:47 GMT
#123763
Guys, I'm finally getting around to making Youtube Videos of LPCL Season 4.

It's only been about six months or so....
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 19 2014 00:52 GMT
#123764
maybe one day there will be season 5 ^_^
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 19 2014 00:58 GMT
#123765
On August 19 2014 09:29 Acritter wrote:
But that makes it not Zeus. He's a magical DPS outlet. That is the way the hero works. Changing that means that the hero no longer exists, and gives us a new support that nobody picks because Lion is better.


Changing abilities to more utility does not necessarily make him support. Although, he gets played in support roles every so often anyway. I mean look at Storm Spirit; he is not a pure DPS hero and can still play a larger role than Zeus. Just because I suggest lowering his damage and making his abilities more utility does not make him strictly a support hero. Hell, I would prefer him a support than DPS considering how easily he is screwed over by pipe.

When you look at the change they did with his bolt and giving it the ability to reveal, that was a change I really was happy with. It gave him something that made him more... useful. Also, by giving him abilities that can make him more useful (and not so easily countered), it would make him get picked more often. Granted, I imagine there are plenty of heroes that are more useful that are picked a lot less.

Not going to discuss the whole existential nature of Zeus being... Zeus. But with that said, I still rather have his abilities re-worked.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 01:01:55
August 19 2014 01:01 GMT
#123766
Don't know if it has been posted yet, according to V1lat's twitter there will be a second and a third announcement regarding Na'Vi roster changes. Probably Puppey leaving with the third one being the new members.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
August 19 2014 01:01 GMT
#123767
On August 19 2014 09:52 Targe wrote:
maybe one day there will be season 5 ^_^

#Soon(TM)
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 19 2014 02:11 GMT
#123768
when is Icefrog going to make Dota more superior
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
August 19 2014 02:14 GMT
#123769
On August 19 2014 11:11 Shaella wrote:
when is Icefrog going to make Dota more superior


The day he removes last hitting. Obvious fix.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 19 2014 02:16 GMT
#123770
he should also remove items.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
August 19 2014 02:21 GMT
#123771
TIL late game tiny > late game void

no, its actually late game tiny > all.

god bless LaNm.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 19 2014 02:24 GMT
#123772
i dunno late game Ember spirit is pretty retarded too

So is late game dusa
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 19 2014 02:25 GMT
#123773
On August 19 2014 10:01 hootsushi wrote:
Don't know if it has been posted yet, according to V1lat's twitter there will be a second and a third announcement regarding Na'Vi roster changes. Probably Puppey leaving with the third one being the new members.


It's almost certain by now it's Puppey leaving tomorrow. Then 3rd would be Vanskor and FNG joining.

That or, Vanskor joining tomorrow, and LoH joining as a coach (if Puppey stays with the team)
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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 02:32:43
August 19 2014 02:32 GMT
#123774
On August 19 2014 09:58 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 09:29 Acritter wrote:
But that makes it not Zeus. He's a magical DPS outlet. That is the way the hero works. Changing that means that the hero no longer exists, and gives us a new support that nobody picks because Lion is better.


Changing abilities to more utility does not necessarily make him support. Although, he gets played in support roles every so often anyway. I mean look at Storm Spirit; he is not a pure DPS hero and can still play a larger role than Zeus. Just because I suggest lowering his damage and making his abilities more utility does not make him strictly a support hero. Hell, I would prefer him a support than DPS considering how easily he is screwed over by pipe.

When you look at the change they did with his bolt and giving it the ability to reveal, that was a change I really was happy with. It gave him something that made him more... useful. Also, by giving him abilities that can make him more useful (and not so easily countered), it would make him get picked more often. Granted, I imagine there are plenty of heroes that are more useful that are picked a lot less.

Not going to discuss the whole existential nature of Zeus being... Zeus. But with that said, I still rather have his abilities re-worked.

Uh. GIVING? The bolt always had the ability to reveal. Vision has been a core component of Zeus for forever. The Zeus changes have been towards giving his abilities more range, which to be frank is exactly what he needs. He can deal crazy amounts of damage if permitted, but lacks the range to do so without just getting blown the fuck up. The bolt-on-ground change was a nice little addition, too, but if you want to see Zeus picked, it's going to be on the back of increased range and mobility.

I don't understand where your "easily countered" bit comes from. He's no more easily countered than any of the many other casters that can't go through BKB. They get picked over him because he's got no way of getting around. Storm is a splendid example of this. Mobility is king.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
August 19 2014 03:21 GMT
#123775
On August 19 2014 11:21 Mensol wrote:
TIL late game tiny > late game void

no, its actually late game tiny > all.

god bless LaNm.

Naix does pretty well against him, but Manta Tiny I suppose > Naix
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7086 Posts
August 19 2014 03:38 GMT
#123776
shadow shaman is imba at 2k mmr

bad range on spells? doesnt matter enemies are so out of position you could have 0 range
carry cant last hit for shit? doesnt matter he can farm heroes with guarantueed kills with shackle
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
August 19 2014 04:00 GMT
#123777
On August 19 2014 12:38 tehh4ck3r wrote:
shadow shaman is imba at 2k mmr

bad range on spells? doesnt matter enemies are so out of position you could have 0 range
carry cant last hit for shit? doesnt matter he can farm heroes with guarantueed kills with shackle

Would almost think that at that level pushing with wards > everything else.

Any hero that can just take towers is imba at low levels.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 04:04:50
August 19 2014 04:03 GMT
#123778
I'll just leave this here for everyone:



Targe, is this one of your alts?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 19 2014 04:37 GMT
#123779
I wish we could see total damage done by spells. I mean, without adding it all up by hand. That was easily a 20k Chain Frost. Maybe more.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6192 Posts
August 19 2014 05:06 GMT
#123780
Ahahaha that was insane. I got hit so hard by a chain frost the other day too, but at least it wasn't THAT bad.
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