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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
On August 19 2014 04:54 Plansix wrote: Ok, someone break it down for me: Some people are arguing that Fata is like the devil of Dota, while the others are saying he is misunderstood Esports Baby Jesus. Which is real? All I know is he has a pretty legit Puck | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
This graph is amazing I don't get the hate on Fata. Singsing actually performed pretty poorly at TI4 (minus his meepo game, even still that was a lot to do with bone7 more than singsing), has a really small hero pool (or maybe they draft narrowly, hard to say), and just doesnt' perform as well in big lans. I don't' mind this switch. Fata obviously has some weird stuff with his personalities, but we'll see the impact of that. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
People are saying that he likes to play the blame game, even in interviews, which a problem. Not one that can’t be overcome, but that is a valid criticism, if it is true. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
And accurate! | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
On August 19 2014 04:20 Plansix wrote: Apparently EE won't be drafting, so I now endorse this decision. Maybe he fill finally learn he doesn't know everything. he's not the only one who'd benefit from that holy moly | ||
dravernor
Netherlands6192 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
wait maybe someone on this forum could help me :O shame people barely ever mention their profession :/ | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On August 19 2014 04:54 Plansix wrote: Ok, someone break it down for me: Some people are arguing that Fata is like the devil of Dota, while the others are saying he is misunderstood Esports Baby Jesus. Which is real? hes not singsing thus he must be the devil for some reason /thread | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 19 2014 04:20 Plansix wrote: Apparently EE won't be drafting, so I now endorse this decision. Maybe he fill finally learn he doesn't know everything. rofl if u knew anything about c9 other than what reddit tells u envys actually the most reluctant captain in the history of dota | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 19 2014 05:30 Kraznaya wrote: rofl if u knew anything about c9 other than what reddit tells u envys actually the most reluctant captain in the history of dota Sorry, my impressions of EE are solely based on him throwing tantrums and going full man child on his stream. He appears to have toned that down a bit recently, but it was pretty bad the times I caught it. Beyond that, I mostly just remember tinker support because someone linked me to it. And that game in TI where they drafted Ax + clockwork and lost in like under 20 minutes. And that one with the level 1 rosh that failed so hard. So him being the reluctant hero-captain is pretty much news to me. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 19 2014 05:34 Plansix wrote: Sorry, my impressions of EE are solely based on him throwing tantrums and going full man child on his stream. He appears to have toned that down a bit recently, but it was pretty bad the times I caught it. Beyond that, I mostly just remember tinker support because someone linked me to it. And that game in TI where they drafted Ax + clockwork and lost in like under 20 minutes. And that one with the level 1 rosh that failed so hard. So him being the reluctant hero-captain is pretty much news to me. lmao do u know who was drafting when they picked support tinker hint: it wasnt envy | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On August 19 2014 05:30 Kraznaya wrote: rofl if u knew anything about c9 other than what reddit tells u envys actually the most reluctant captain in the history of dota together with s4 also LD got as poisonous as just any other website i try to stay out of everything other than GD its so obnoxious | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 19 2014 05:38 teddyoojo wrote: together with s4 also LD got as poisonous as just any other website i try to stay out of everything other than GD its so obnoxious it really is | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
true story | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 19 2014 05:36 Kraznaya wrote: lmao do u know who was drafting when they picked support tinker hint: it wasnt envy I did not know that, I assume it was when I watched the brief clip of the replay and laughed about support tinker. EE had drafted every single other game I have seen with C9, so I simply assume it was him. As I said during TI4, c9 seemed to exist in this binary state of either brilliant or full clown, and some of that had to do with the drafting. So I'm happy to see they are switching it up. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
Anyone claiming SingSing is better = ignore, because they have no ability to understand dota and are either a super fanboy or completely clueless. On the flipside, anyone saying FATA = dota anti-christ, awful personality, horrible person, team killer = drama monger who has never interacted with FATA directly or anyone FATA has every interacted with directly. These types of people are just bored cancer causing monkeys who try and stir up shit by posting their own interpretations of any scrap of feces that pro players leak out of their ass on twitter, in pubs, on stream, or wherever. I like SingSing and he has certainly improved and carried his weight many times in c9 but I'm fine with this change and excited to see what FATA can do with c9. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 19 2014 05:42 Plansix wrote: I did not know that, I assume it was when I watched the brief clip of the replay and laughed about support tinker. EE had drafted every single other game I have seen with C9, so I simply assume it was him. As I said during TI4, c9 seemed to exist in this binary state of either brilliant or full clown, and some of that had to do with the drafting. So I'm happy to see they are switching it up. after the summer of 13 envy gave the captain position to pld because he has repeatedly maintained through his career that he would rather focus on his own play (if he is really as arrogant as u assume why would he relinquish his position to a newcomer in FATA?) pie actually drafted for a long period of time for kp including during their MLG win not sure why this isnt more widely known u make conclusions on c9s players and personalities despite not knowing this and hence leading me to believe u didnt watch any of their games for 9 months pld lost confidence in drafting/trying new things in part due to disasters like support tinker so the team reverted to envy captain in june ti4 had a ridiculous number of draft losses and sub 20 min wins so im not sure how u can single out envy for losing draft losses in that meta when ppd drafted egs LBF series vs vg for example | ||
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