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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 08 2014 15:19 GMT
#121961
i start with 4 clarities
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-08 15:22:01
August 08 2014 15:21 GMT
#121962
On August 09 2014 00:16 Rocket-Bear wrote:
I think you only need a magic stick and good use of it to solve CKs mana problems.

There's no way this is right (yes I know ur better than me).

Even a full wand is only one stun+rift. And those spells dont have a long cd. And phantasm is like 275 mana out of a 470 mana pool at level 16.

Although appropriate treads toggling makes a big difference and I never manage that.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 08 2014 15:22 GMT
#121963
u gotta do the value treads switch
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2014 15:28 GMT
#121964
On August 09 2014 00:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 00:16 Rocket-Bear wrote:
I think you only need a magic stick and good use of it to solve CKs mana problems.

There's no way this is right (yes I know ur better than me).

Even a full wand is only one stun+rift. And those spells dont have a long cd. And phantasm is like 275 mana out of a 470 mana pool at level 16.

Although appropriate treads toggling makes a big difference and I never manage that.

I think his point is that if you use the stick, you can get the kill you are looking for without the need for drums. Clearly you need that full mana pool if its go time with phantasm.

But yeah, I get drums on him until someone figures out a better way to get that mana that doesn't involve a support not having his mana boots off CD(which never happens, they spam that shit)
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makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
August 08 2014 15:32 GMT
#121965
A curveball:
Armlet on Slark?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2014 15:36 GMT
#121966
Are right clicks ever the thing that kills slark? I always felt it was nukes and all the stuns. Also, it seems kinda risky with dark pact. Thats a lot of shit draining your HP.

Would be a good way to end up on Fails of the Week however.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 08 2014 15:37 GMT
#121967
Drums just fits well with CK's overall timing because you should reasonably have Treads+Drum+Stick/Wand at level 8, which is his first major peak in fighting power with Bolt+Rift maxed.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 08 2014 15:59 GMT
#121968
treads and stick solve a lot of mana problems
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 08 2014 16:08 GMT
#121969
Tread switching saves lives.

Protect your feet appropriately kids.
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idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
August 08 2014 16:35 GMT
#121970
On August 09 2014 00:37 TheYango wrote:
Drums just fits well with CK's overall timing because you should reasonably have Treads+Drum+Stick/Wand at level 8, which is his first major peak in fighting power with Bolt+Rift maxed.


do you ever play him without a wisp? i feel like drums is not really good if you can't get on top of people.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-08 16:37:56
August 08 2014 16:37 GMT
#121971
Nothing's good on ck if you can't get on top of people. Drums actually helps somewhat in that regard.

I guess you could play CK as a blink-dagger ganker but realistically he needs too much farm for that to be good. Which is part of why he's a fucking awful hero overall.
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idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-08 16:39:52
August 08 2014 16:39 GMT
#121972
On August 09 2014 01:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
Nothing's good on ck if you can't get on top of people. Drums actually helps somewhat in that regard.

I guess you could play CK as a blink-dagger ganker but realistically he needs too much farm for that to be good. Which is part of why he's a fucking awful hero overall.


what about skipping drums and go midas instead? its what i like to do in pubs.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2014 16:41 GMT
#121973
On August 09 2014 01:39 idonthinksobro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 01:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
Nothing's good on ck if you can't get on top of people. Drums actually helps somewhat in that regard.

I guess you could play CK as a blink-dagger ganker but realistically he needs too much farm for that to be good. Which is part of why he's a fucking awful hero overall.


what about skipping drums and go midas instead? its what i like to do in pubs.

Then you end up wasting he kill potential at like level 8 or so when everyone is made of glass and getting their first big item.

He is a weird hero, but fun to play if you can get him farmed. But thats a lot of heroes.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
August 08 2014 16:44 GMT
#121974
i think i'd get midas if i ran ck with a wisp
only for the levels though, lvl 3 phantasm aint nothin to fuck with
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Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
August 08 2014 16:56 GMT
#121975
Midas ck is fine, especially b/c you shouldn't be playing ck unless you have a free farm lane anyway

CK has no flash farm and with 5 minute midas you aren't behind on treads/drums?/armlet/bkb timing
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2014 16:58 GMT
#121976
Is there any hero that is bad with a 5 minute midas?
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 08 2014 17:00 GMT
#121977
ck is so scary late game if you farm efficiently drums armlet heart ck kills any 6slotted hero
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Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
August 08 2014 17:03 GMT
#121978
Well other heroes have core items that result in huge boosts in utility (most notably blink users, mek carriers, etc)

CK doesn't really care if he has treads/drums at 10 minutes or 14. If you are behind as CK your game is gonna be ass. The strength of his combo: pull + stun + followup (gotta have a team that synchronizes) is intrinsic to the hero
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
August 08 2014 17:11 GMT
#121979
zai's stream is hilarious
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 08 2014 17:13 GMT
#121980
On August 09 2014 01:58 Plansix wrote:
Is there any hero that is bad with a 5 minute midas?

chen? other early item dependent heroes?
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