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AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
August 08 2014 11:55 GMT
#121941
D2CL got progressively worse with each season, curious if there will an improvement this time around.
Zvenn3n
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Sweden1196 Posts
August 08 2014 11:56 GMT
#121942
When watching Titan play dota and their supports getting kills, it's hard to not think/say "Titan Nets themselves a kill".

I would probably be the punniest caster ever.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-08 12:41:40
August 08 2014 12:37 GMT
#121943
On August 08 2014 20:52 teddyoojo wrote:
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that is indeed true. well maxing blood or breath first depends on situation

no it doesnt :D


you went to safelane and then your support derped and then you get to 1v1 solo some proper offlane range hero where the player is actually good he keep harassing you he eats the lane. since you are not farming shit and your exp was stolen by that derpy support and more so the opponent team might have an early mek and their supports are at similar levels like you (ie burst from breath is not as effective as usual). It is not like mid bottle crow breath you can still get moderately good farm and good exp; getting 1-3 levels of blood for surviving the rough safelane better is considerably worthy (or a reasonable option). Unless you have this amazing chance of tp gank (with maxing breath but no item due to poor farming) to make use of that breath in early game (and then you win the team fight big time and gain alot of exp/gold etc), but you cant see the future so it would be a gamble: i cant farm i cant get exp effectively but ill still max breath first and wait for the right chance to use it and hopefully it will be before the effectiveness of breath ran out.

and hate that you skipped the more critical part of that line lol 'but usually breath first but almost never maxing stun first'.

all in all at least it is a reasonable option unlike maxing stun first lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 08 2014 12:38 GMT
#121944
On August 08 2014 17:16 ahswtini wrote:
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On August 08 2014 11:56 Erasme wrote:
i usually go bracer yasha aghs on jugg

Why the bracer?

bracer saved me so many times on so many heroes I kinda buy it anytime the other team has burst
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 08 2014 12:38 GMT
#121945
yo wtf, I just got back from Holland and everything changed@!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-08 12:46:50
August 08 2014 12:46 GMT
#121946
Fact, bracers save lives. I learned from Merlini and watching him walk away from so many ganks with 80 hp. If you are worried about getting jumped, get a bracer. Unless your a support, then consider urn, because urns are dope.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 08 2014 12:46 GMT
#121947
i now buy bracer sometimes becos of u erasme
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makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
August 08 2014 12:58 GMT
#121948
People are overlooking small items because they suck at farming. Learn to cs, and suddenly you can afford everything while fighting.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-08 13:11:15
August 08 2014 13:05 GMT
#121949
Or look at it this way. Bracer costs 525 and gives 114 hp. So basiclly a bracer can takes about one hit from any "burst" ability in the at that point in the game. At level six, if it saves you from death once, you just saved 180 gold and any down time. That value only goes up as the game goes on. Then you can sell it for a better item and not worry. Bracers are the gift that keeps on giving.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 08 2014 13:07 GMT
#121950
Bracer gives 114 hp. Not close to 200.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 08 2014 13:09 GMT
#121951
I just buy Urn of Shadows.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-08 15:01:33
August 08 2014 13:10 GMT
#121952
On August 08 2014 22:07 Unleashing wrote:
Bracer gives 114 hp. Not close to 200.

My bad, I read the tool tip wrong on my phone and thought it gave 33 hp per point of str, fixed.
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hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
August 08 2014 14:23 GMT
#121953
On August 08 2014 22:05 Plansix wrote:
Or look at it this way. Bracer costs 525 and gives 114 hp. So basiclly a bracer can takes about one hit from any "burst" ability in the at that point in the game. At level six, if it saves you from death once, you just saved 180 gold and any down time. That value only goes up as the game goes on. Then you can sell it for a better item and not worry. Bracers are the gift that keeps on giving.


I love drums. That's why I'm getting bracers anyway on many heroes.
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 08 2014 14:33 GMT
#121954
Drums are the opposite of bracers, while bracer is costeffective tankiness stats on drums are very overpriced.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2014 14:53 GMT
#121955
Agreed, I always feel the 900 gold to finish them off is such a drain. If I have any big item I need, it sets me back so much. When I play LC, I go bottle(if mid) into treds into bracer and then straight blink. Same with Luna, but with BKB being the item of choice. Drums are good, but they cost so much and I can get by on just the bracer if necessary.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 08 2014 14:57 GMT
#121956
Really depends on what hero you're playing.
On heroes like Juggernaut and CK it's one of the more cost-effecient ways to give your mana-pool a much needed boost.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 08 2014 15:00 GMT
#121957
On August 08 2014 21:37 BurningSera wrote:
It is not like mid bottle crow breath you can still get moderately good farm and good exp

It is, you just get Soul Ring to support Breath rather than Bottle in that circumstance. Which I'd rather do than leveling too much Blood early.
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lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
August 08 2014 15:01 GMT
#121958
I started buying casual vit/point boosters on cores I used to buy drums, and it feels as strong in midgame for cheaper, and they can be upgraded for good lategame items.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2014 15:03 GMT
#121959
On August 08 2014 23:57 Unleashing wrote:
Really depends on what hero you're playing.
On heroes like Juggernaut and CK it's one of the more cost-effecient ways to give your mana-pool a much needed boost.

Yeah, LC doesn't really have huge mana problems unless you are spamming overwhelming odds, so drums aren't as useful. CK's mana pool is so much more of a problem. I love that hero, but making him efficient is a little beyond my abilities right now. Maybe with more practice.
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
August 08 2014 15:16 GMT
#121960
I think you only need a magic stick and good use of it to solve CKs mana problems.
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