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ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
August 08 2014 00:37 GMT
#121881
On August 08 2014 09:20 Targe wrote:
wtf is orcs and elves

If you play SC2 customs, its Pobes vs Zeelot (superior spelling) there. Otherwise though, its a Vampirism-esque map where the only difference is that the "vamp" earns money through his total damage done onto buildings.
There is no need to be mad.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-08 00:45:18
August 08 2014 00:44 GMT
#121882
On August 08 2014 09:37 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 09:20 Targe wrote:
wtf is orcs and elves

If you play SC2 customs, its Pobes vs Zeelot (superior spelling) there. Otherwise though, its a Vampirism-esque map where the only difference is that the "vamp" earns money through his total damage done onto buildings.

You're thinking of troll vs elves, orcs and elves is something different.
Unless it's all the same thing with a different skin. I never played Orcs and Elves but i know that what you just described is exactly what Troll vs elves is.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 08 2014 00:52 GMT
#121883
sc2 had custom maps?
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
ykl
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia541 Posts
August 08 2014 01:10 GMT
#121884
On August 08 2014 09:44 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 09:37 ykl wrote:
On August 08 2014 09:20 Targe wrote:
wtf is orcs and elves

If you play SC2 customs, its Pobes vs Zeelot (superior spelling) there. Otherwise though, its a Vampirism-esque map where the only difference is that the "vamp" earns money through his total damage done onto buildings.

You're thinking of troll vs elves, orcs and elves is something different.
Unless it's all the same thing with a different skin. I never played Orcs and Elves but i know that what you just described is exactly what Troll vs elves is.

Oh, wtf, you're right. Its been too long since I played the Warcraft 3 version.
Disregard what I said then, stupid similar map names.
There is no need to be mad.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
August 08 2014 01:11 GMT
#121885
my uncle used to look down on me for playing custom games. he would only play melee.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Meser87
Profile Joined April 2011
United States476 Posts
August 08 2014 01:19 GMT
#121886
why didn't I just play my one game of the day and be good with that? got MMR greedy :/
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 08 2014 01:29 GMT
#121887
On August 08 2014 09:44 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 09:37 ykl wrote:
On August 08 2014 09:20 Targe wrote:
wtf is orcs and elves

If you play SC2 customs, its Pobes vs Zeelot (superior spelling) there. Otherwise though, its a Vampirism-esque map where the only difference is that the "vamp" earns money through his total damage done onto buildings.

You're thinking of troll vs elves, orcs and elves is something different.
Unless it's all the same thing with a different skin. I never played Orcs and Elves but i know that what you just described is exactly what Troll vs elves is.

nah that was it
it put way more emphasis on the fog, you could do some sweet plays
but mostly you'd just win as elves by blocking the oh so slow orc player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
August 08 2014 02:21 GMT
#121888
What are the tournaments you guys watch the most? For example to watch lol I can tune into OGN every wed/fri or LCS over the weekend. Is there anything like that for dota or is it all big tournaments?
@miicah88
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-08 02:26:35
August 08 2014 02:22 GMT
#121889
Voodoo Restoration: heals 16-40 HP per second potentially 100% uptime. 20-50 mana startup and 200-500 mana to channel for 25 seconds.
Healing Ward: heals 2-5% HP per second with the same radius and ~40% uptime. Costs a flat 80-140 mana per minute. It can also center somewhere besides Juggernaut.

Healing Ward heals more than Voodoo Restoration if the targets have an average of 800 or more health. It costs less if it lasts for more than 8 seconds.

Witch Doctor healing in pubs - 54.14/min
Juggernaut healing in pubs - 0.72/min

I can only conclude that 95%+ of pub Juggernauts have an irrational hatred of Healing Ward.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 08 2014 02:25 GMT
#121890
does ward do dmg?

so why get it
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 08 2014 02:27 GMT
#121891
i actually go max spin then healing ward. i cringe at the crit first juggs then bfury @_@ even aghs first jugg is a bad idea
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
August 08 2014 02:42 GMT
#121892
Just realized that there are 3 partial na teams, a cis team, and a sea team above the first pure eu team at ti4. New power ranking is China>USAUSAUSA>CIS>SEA>EU>Korea.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 08 2014 02:52 GMT
#121893
Technically there was also 14 teams above the best pure NA team
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 08 2014 02:53 GMT
#121894
On August 08 2014 11:27 icystorage wrote:
i actually go max spin then healing ward. i cringe at the crit first juggs then bfury @_@ even aghs first jugg is a bad idea

rly? i think aghs first jugg is gr8 in some situations
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2014 02:54 GMT
#121895
On August 08 2014 11:53 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 11:27 icystorage wrote:
i actually go max spin then healing ward. i cringe at the crit first juggs then bfury @_@ even aghs first jugg is a bad idea

rly? i think aghs first jugg is gr8 in some situations

So much money and how to you keep the farm up. Maybe after drums or something to keep him from having to fountain, but never straight rush.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 08 2014 02:56 GMT
#121896
i usually go bracer yasha aghs on jugg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2014 03:00 GMT
#121897
Yeah, drums is a little pricey and I guess the yasha would do enough for his damage and attack speed. He is such a weird hero to build. But I do love deso on him, even if it isn't the greatest thing in the world.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 08 2014 03:02 GMT
#121898
straight aghs makes you useless when omni is on cd or you just used your omni

i go phase drums casual yasha because my right click is pretty decent not to be ignored by the enemy. Then i get aghs/deso/basher/manta
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-08 03:09:14
August 08 2014 03:08 GMT
#121899
Deso on Juggernaut feels like a deathball pushing item to me; use it to kill towers 30% faster, and the extra raw damage is just a nice side effect.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-08 03:09:35
August 08 2014 03:08 GMT
#121900
On August 08 2014 02:39 r_con wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 01:39 Plansix wrote:
I miss Magnus. Ever since they nerfed his level 1 RP, he has been a sad panda. I wish they could get him back into the meta, he was a blast to watch and always lead to some totally amazing team fight moments.
The rp nerf made me so sad, every time i play him, and i get an amazing rp and then they live by 50-100 health. The utility from his empower is really strong late game though.

Actually Magnus is still super strong because of no nerf to shockwave. That RP is to let you skewer them into your towers for free kills bro :D I had a sven & lina who was making short work of the poor peeps i RPed.
Shockwave at 90mp and such low cooldown is amazingly fun.
Pretty much the most funny game i've had in a while. We were laughing in the voice chat. They even suspected we were a 5-stack lol.

On August 08 2014 09:20 Targe wrote:
wtf is orcs and elves

Yeah what is that?

I liked the swordmans vs orcs though. The one where you have a wisp, you set it on a portal that spawns different creep variety according to where your at, and you buy rings/weapons/armor to help you get to the harder creeps. Finally it comes down to a arena-style battle every XX mins and a final showdown. It's a race of who farms better/gets better synergy.
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