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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On August 06 2014 11:48 TheYango wrote: How often do you not start with branches? Most situations I can think of where I wouldn't start with branches involve pooled gold. Honestly about 50% of my support games and 20% of my offlane games I don't get branches. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3339 Posts
AoE for gaining charges reduced from 1600 to 1200 No longer give you charges if a spell was cast from the fog of war | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
I just sell the starting branches I get on core heroes. The gold is better spent going towards, say, Drum. Getting it 300g faster is a big deal. Same with something like Phase or Midas or hell even Radiance. The list just goes on. By the time you've gotten all your time-critical items, your stick is already not long for this world. Wand is best as a panic buy item to use up unreliable gold, in my opinion. And, @ above, yes. Instant>duration that can be canceled. In fights anywhere past that early stage, you're not going to have much of a chance to bottle between getting hit. Bottle may technically be more healing, but realistically, you're not going to get anywhere near its full potential. Plus, 15 charge wand is going to give you more mana than a full bottle, so there's that. | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
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Veles
United States3280 Posts
Supports have the slots but you generally start with like 1 branch as support and slowing your blink/arcane/force whatever isn't worth it at all | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 06 2014 16:29 cecek wrote: Nothing is worse than seeing a support start with branches and rush a magic wand. That shit seriously makes me tilt. i feel like id play better if i just stopped checking my teammates items (unless im going urn/mek) | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On August 06 2014 11:48 TheYango wrote: As weird as it sounds, I often end up just dropping my Branches for slots and then make Wand if the enemy hasn't killed them (most people don't waste their time attacking Branches)--otherwise just getting Stick. If you have to go out of your way to buy all 3 Branches for the Wand, it's not really worth it. If you still have the Branches lying around in lane, 150 gold to roll +3 all Stats into a slot that you're already carrying anyway is much more worth it, since otherwise you're wasting the Branches you already paid for. How often do you not start with branches? Most situations I can think of where I wouldn't start with branches involve pooled gold. I should have defined as i seldom buy 3 or more gg branch starts unless im mid bottle rushing doing the 3branch+tango build. I usually run like 1 or 2 branches, meaning i need to buy more branches to finish up the wand most of the time. Even when im mid doing the 3branch+tango bottle rush, there's no reason for me to finish up a wand as it comes down to what i've said, what are the chances that 1, you store over the limit of 10charges, or 2, that 5extra charge will save you. It's extremely unlikely in all scenario. Like i've said, if you managed to store more than 10charges, you probably aren't using that wand correctly in the first place anyway. As for when do i not start with branches, pretty much all support games. Unless that hero has a mana requirement where the branch will tip it over for another spell but those heroes are few. I would have spent all my starting money on courier/ward/tango/salve/clarity. I rather grab 1 clarity than 1 branch most of the time. On my offlane games, i will bulk up on stout shield + regen + 1 or 2 branches depending, as melee(gold limit). Which means i wont spend that 53/106+recipe gold to finish up the wand. Offlane im poor anyway. As offlane range hero, I will still stock up on regen without the stout shield. Max of 2 branches too as I will attempt a quick boots rush or save the money to buy more regen as necessary as I know I wont be guaranteed farm.Saving the money gives flexibility of choice as to what do i want to do later. On safelane carries, there's no reason whatsoever to grab a wand in the first place. Even if i start off with 3branches or more, i will still focus on getting that first big item asap over grabbing a wand. All in all, it comes down to the fact that I think that extra 5charges and +3 stats isn't worth the money. That recipe + whatever branches i need to topup inorder to buy the wand, i would rather get something else that is of similar value, say a obs/smoke/tele scroll/regen. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Did slasher seriously ask Hao the same question 3 times in a row? | ||
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Xypski
Denmark156 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
I mean on some heroes like VS yes 2 branches make quite some differences on her mana pool but if you dont get it then it is no big deal, because just like most supportive heroes during the first 5-10mins of the game, you prepare to go back base after an early risky kill (/attempt) or just suicide to neutral when you are low mana/hp (after you spent your gold obviously). That way you let whoever on the lane get more exp and then you go gank other lane or go straight to check/guard the rune to help mid etc. I have only done Magic wand rush on rubbick...and maybe orge magi (for orge i got boots first ofc rofl) | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
On August 06 2014 17:33 teapoted wrote: Watching the lo3 vod. Did slasher seriously ask Hao the same question 3 times in a row? Pretty much yes. I was watching it live and he got a ton of well, hate for his questions. I had a lot of issues with his questions since he kept using anecdotes and long-winded questions which is very bad when you have a translator. Slasher usually gets flack just because he is well, Slasher. But this is one of the times I would say he deserved it which is why even DjWheat talked about it afterwards. When using a translator, gotta use simple, concise questions. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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