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r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
July 04 2014 15:22 GMT
#116441
i do support naga transistion into carry..... it has been winning me alot of games , naga is really strong at like leve l1-3 as a support, kinda a bully, but then she falls off in terms of damage and what not, so i just go roq bottle drum radiance and it seems to work really well.... you just have a tp and enough mana to do your whole combo to support lanes and you should be funny. If my team is competent then i just stack everything with illusions and push out lanes they are not occupying.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-04 15:24:48
July 04 2014 15:24 GMT
#116442
???
That was random.

I have exceedingly high hopes for the n00b stream right now though, I think it's an incredibly great idea.
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
July 04 2014 15:26 GMT
#116443
Didn't Firebolt do a newbie stream last year?

Also Naga support is good, EGM played one hell of a naga support last TI. But her ult is such a big hit or miss without proper communication.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 04 2014 15:30 GMT
#116444
Well I mean an officially endorsed one

Not that firebolts wasn't good or whatever just that your average wouldn't know how to watch him.

The riptide aoe nerf really forces you to use illusions to get any kind of proper AoE from the ability, which makes support siren substantially harder.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 04 2014 15:36 GMT
#116445
PS hey we have access to closed threads from other sites is that new?
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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
July 04 2014 15:51 GMT
#116446
On July 05 2014 00:22 r_con wrote:
so i just go roq bottle drum radiance


Have to say I still don't like Radiance Naga. But that's just me being set in my ways with the diffusal build. >_>
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-04 15:55:56
July 04 2014 15:54 GMT
#116447
On July 05 2014 00:51 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 00:22 r_con wrote:
so i just go roq bottle drum radiance


Have to say I still don't like Radiance Naga. But that's just me being set in my ways with the diffusal build. >_>

I mean, why be the best farming hero in the game with the ability to constantly push out lanes, safely steal farm from the enemies jungle, etc when you could instead be a very bad version of PL?
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
July 04 2014 15:56 GMT
#116448
On July 04 2014 19:48 Yoshi- wrote:
You could try unbindall and then exec autoexec(or whatever your config is called)

Maybe that will fix it


tah for the suggestions.

turned out they'd redone the camera controls shit since i last played which is what broke it. All fixed now =)
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-04 16:13:51
July 04 2014 16:12 GMT
#116449
On July 05 2014 00:54 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 00:51 -Celestial- wrote:
On July 05 2014 00:22 r_con wrote:
so i just go roq bottle drum radiance


Have to say I still don't like Radiance Naga. But that's just me being set in my ways with the diffusal build. >_>

I mean, why be the best farming hero in the game with the ability to constantly push out lanes, safely steal farm from the enemies jungle, etc when you could instead be a very bad version of PL?


Because if you play it right you can farm heroes with boots/aquila/diffusal rather than farming creeps. You can't do that with PL without stacking agility for IAS. *shrug*

Perhaps it doesn't work for everyone, but my 70% winrate seems to indicate it works for me.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
July 04 2014 17:29 GMT
#116450
boots/aquila/diffusal naga has around 1k hp which makes it hard to get kills outside of solo pickoff

radiance naga avoids contact with enemy heroes until more levels + items bump her hp a lot and let her illu survive teamfights
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 04 2014 17:30 GMT
#116451
On July 05 2014 02:29 Veles wrote:
boots/aquila/diffusal naga has around 1k hp which makes it hard to get kills outside of solo pickoff

radiance naga avoids contact with enemy heroes until more levels + items bump her hp a lot and let her illu survive teamfights

But his 70% winrate dude
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Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
July 04 2014 17:34 GMT
#116452
I imagine Purge will coach Kaci again, and Pyrion, Shane, Blitz, maybe Sheever or Sunsfan will lead the newbie stream. Just a guess.
EGM guides me
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 04 2014 17:39 GMT
#116453
If you're going to fight early with Naga, something like Arcanes+Meka snowballing into a later Radiance off tower kills/won teamfights probably makes more sense than straight Diffusal. Teamcomps that fight early with Naga are going to be based on AoE spells that combo off Song, rather than relying on Illusion DPS, and a Naga Meka frees up some of the common heroes to put with her (DS, Enigma, Tide, etc.) to get an earlier Blink without sacrificing the teamfight power of Mek.
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BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1466 Posts
July 04 2014 18:34 GMT
#116454
On July 05 2014 02:39 TheYango wrote:
If you're going to fight early with Naga, something like Arcanes+Meka snowballing into a later Radiance off tower kills/won teamfights probably makes more sense than straight Diffusal. Teamcomps that fight early with Naga are going to be based on AoE spells that combo off Song, rather than relying on Illusion DPS, and a Naga Meka frees up some of the common heroes to put with her (DS, Enigma, Tide, etc.) to get an earlier Blink without sacrificing the teamfight power of Mek.


That idea is pretty interesting. It is similar to Meka SF. Has it been done before in a competitive match?
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-04 18:41:58
July 04 2014 18:39 GMT
#116455
On July 05 2014 02:30 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 02:29 Veles wrote:
boots/aquila/diffusal naga has around 1k hp which makes it hard to get kills outside of solo pickoff

radiance naga avoids contact with enemy heroes until more levels + items bump her hp a lot and let her illu survive teamfights

But his 70% winrate dude


Yes, screw me for having a personal preference that works for me.

Nice flames. Bet you feel so good about yourself.



On a side note...just opened a Treasure of the Elemental Trophy. Inside: Dark Angel, Timberthaw AND Beaver Knight Bundle. o_o
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-04 18:53:28
July 04 2014 18:52 GMT
#116456
? u brought up ur winrate not me. I was helping make sure the other guy understood just how good ur build was.

The only way my statement can be construed as flaming is if you think ur original comment was self-evidently dumb and my repetition thereof without qualification somehow isn't just supporting your assertions. Which, apparently, is the case.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2853 Posts
July 04 2014 19:31 GMT
#116457
Someone ban Sn0_Man for not trolling in GD, this shits confusing.

...or is this meta trolling... fuck this thread
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 04 2014 19:35 GMT
#116458
I mean I was definitely flaming but for him to believe that what I posted was flame was selfsame to believing that he deserved it.

This thread is great btw.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2853 Posts
July 04 2014 19:39 GMT
#116459
It would be better were it consistently awful.
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-04 19:43:10
July 04 2014 19:42 GMT
#116460
I dont like arcanes on her, i think treads are too good, she has amazing armor so the extra health goes a long way, and looking at replays from egm from ti3, he agrees.

Also she can jungle pretty fast at just level 5 with an aquil + bottle crow. I experimented a bit and i find either going power treads or drums really helps her stay in the jungle at fighting health(this is after lanes have broken down and i even sometimes buy my own courier+flying to constantly bottle crow). she is also really hard to push into with illusion spam + riptide spam. Feels like she is a great pub support Because alot of the problems i had playing traditional laning support is that i can think about is killing, but naga has put me in the mindset of securing my carries farm or my own because the mirror images allows me to be where i think ill be most useful while still stacking + farming + defending. She is so damn fun and destroys pubs, atleast for now.
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