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On June 14 2014 09:07 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 09:05 teddyoojo wrote:On June 14 2014 08:57 Targe wrote:
i swear you can do things as soon as youve got BoTs? not really u still need dagger i mean 'things' for instance your team is pushing, you can tp and spam march, cast rockets once, thats a decent amount of damage likewise if theyre pushing into a tower of yours, or if you see someone getting ganked you can tp and laser the ganker sure you can be useful without blink
u dont want to be tho because the time between bot and dagger matters a fuckton
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On June 14 2014 08:31 FinestHour wrote:
tinker dosent need 25 minutes to come online lmao
In coordinated games no, I agree. You can use him well right after BoTs, Soul ring and lvl 7. Good tower siege with march that is hard to fight into etc.
But in pubs? None is going to do that shit. So all he can do is farm blink. And after that, he still has low level on rocket and lazer, so he needs a few more levels until he actually can kill heroes. That's not how you win pubs.
Same with medusa, could probably do 5man pushes with her ulti. But isn't going to happen in pubs so she just needs too much farm to be good.
That's why LC is so good for pubs since coordinated pushes ain't going to happen. Unless you jungle her which is dumb.
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In coordinated games no, I agree. You can use him well right after BoTs, Soul ring and lvl 7. Good tower siege with march that is hard to fight into etc.
well no its actually the other way around
well depending on what you mean with coordinated games i suppose
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On June 14 2014 09:15 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 08:31 FinestHour wrote:
tinker dosent need 25 minutes to come online lmao In coordinated games no, I agree. You can use him well right after BoTs, Soul ring and lvl 7. Good tower siege with march that is hard to fight into etc. But in pubs? None is going to do that shit. So all he can do is farm blink. And after that, he still has low level on rocket and lazer, so he needs a few more levels until he actually can kill heroes. That's not how you win pubs. Same with medusa, could probably do 5man pushes with her ulti. But isn't going to happen in pubs so she just needs too much farm to be good. That's why LC is so good for pubs since coordinated pushes ain't going to happen. Unless you jungle her which is dumb.
obviously if you see a 4 man push going onyou can take advantage of that and help them though
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On June 14 2014 09:04 Adrian_mx wrote:
Meepo sucks guys get over the hype
i hate meepo
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is stalling pushes on your towers for a long period of time not even worth mentioning cuz thats the most irritating part
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So I was taking a survey for Blizzard on the new Heroes of the Storm game (Alpha). One question that I found intriguing is this: When was the last time you played a hero brawler or action-RTS game (for example; DotA 2, League of Legends, Smite, Dawngate, etc.)? This does not include Heroes of the Storm. *
Just found it fascinating that Blizzard willfully avoids using the term moba (which I actually never use the term) and instead, went with the DotA-All Stars era genre of ARTS. Gotta love semantics!
Out of curiosity folks, disregarding the compendium vote, which heroes do you wish would have their model reworked (beside Shadow Fiend)? I was discussing the topic with a friend and was wondering how the set items would work for a hero that is reworked. hypothetically, imagine if Windrunner ended up being reworked. If it is a pretty big change, it is conceivable that all her items will be gone.
Edit: Side note, when Skeleton king was changed, I believe Valve was asking the designers to update their items for "Wraith king".
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pretty sure ppl would be happy about a slardar rework 
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On June 14 2014 09:30 FinestHour wrote:
is stalling pushes on your towers for a long period of time not even worth mentioning cuz thats the most irritating part
Yeah but I don't think delaying pushes wins you games.
I guess what I want to say is that Tinker, for a midhero, takes way too long to be able to punish positional mistakes properly. If you fucked up vs a Storm/Beastmaster/Brew/DK/QoP/Invoker/Nightstalker/Puck etc, you will die. But you can just walk away from tinker's march... It takes too long for him to be able to catch people who fucked up imo.
For the modelthing: Most talked about is Zeus and Slardar I think. But I would like Clinkz to get a remodel as well. Don't really like his. Clinkz voice is good though, hope they don't change that.
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On June 14 2014 09:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 09:30 FinestHour wrote:
is stalling pushes on your towers for a long period of time not even worth mentioning cuz thats the most irritating part Yeah but I don't think delaying pushes wins you games. I guess what I want to say is that Tinker, for a midhero, takes way too long to be able to punish positional mistakes properly. If you fucked up vs a Storm/Beastmaster/Brew/DK/QoP/Invoker/Nightstalker/Puck etc, you will die. But you can just walk away from tinker's march... It takes too long for him to be able to catch people who fucked up imo.
You just have to play Laser Rocket instead of march.
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I'm not talking about me. I am working on my support play atm in pubs. But all the tinkers I queue into at 5.3-6k mmr goes march first.
And I agree with the build. I just don't like Tinker as a pubhero.
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if u max laser rocket before march u dont deserve to play dota
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On June 14 2014 09:50 teddyoojo wrote:
if u max laser rocket before march u dont deserve to play dota
why would you want to level march beyond 1 value point? laser rocket's nuke is so strong
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On June 14 2014 09:58 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 09:50 teddyoojo wrote:
if u max laser rocket before march u dont deserve to play dota why would you want to level march beyond 1 value point? laser rocket's nuke is so strong
The damage increase from leveling march is actually very significant.
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The only reason you won that Targe is because you had a Skadi on your team and they didn't.
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i linked it because it showed me going max march build
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Is March at level 1 better than laser at level one?
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On June 14 2014 10:26 EnumaAvalon wrote:Is March at level 1 better than laser at level one?
no
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well fellas the helium tank and suicide bag are arriving on monday
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