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Sn0_Man

Tebellong44238 Posts

May 09 2014 19:36 GMT

#106381

WK's a legit hero tho straight up so w/e.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

May 09 2014 19:39 GMT

#106382

Yeah, I just did a quick check of all the events that NaVi won in the last 6-8 month and about half of those were by making it through the losers bracket(when there is one). So I stand by my point that they do their best work in the losers bracket. What "best work" means is entirely up to you.

cecek

Czech Republic18921 Posts

May 09 2014 19:40 GMT

#106383

When people say "Na'Vi are a losers bracket team", I think they also mean that they usually do badly at the beginning of tournaments, in groupstages, etc. Especially after Alienware cup and TI3 groupstages, where the difference in their play was huge, I think there's something to it. Na'Vi definitely don't play equally well in all games/all stages of a tournament.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

May 09 2014 19:43 GMT

#106384

They do have a special skill for going full retard the first game and them going on to win the set.

teapoted

United Kingdom24425 Posts

May 09 2014 19:46 GMT

#106385

On May 10 2014 04:39 Plansix wrote:
Yeah, I just did a quick check of all the events that NaVi won in the last 6-8 month and about half of those were by making it through the losers bracket(when there is one). So I stand by my point that they do their best work in the losers bracket. What "best work" means is entirely up to you.

I've already explained this.

Jesus christ.

I'll agree with Cecek that (without checking) they do appear to do worse in group stages than in playoffs.

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34505 Posts

May 09 2014 19:46 GMT

#106386

Long ago Azarkon blessed us with insight as to how and why they do this:

iG played Na'Vi twice. They destroyed Na'Vi the first series. It was not close. For other teams this wrecks your mentality. For Na'Vi they came back and 2-1'd iG. iG is now playing bad because they thought they lost to a weak ass team that they thought they were going to stomp based on what happened on Day 1.

That's how you mind fuck your opponent.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

May 09 2014 19:52 GMT

#106387

As I said, they do their best they have a bloody lip and their back is against the wall. In the losers bracket or otherwise, they are a team that at their best when they have lost a few games.

teapoted

United Kingdom24425 Posts

May 09 2014 19:53 GMT

#106388

I'll agree that's the myth that Na'Vi fans like to perpetuate yes.

On May 10 2014 04:46 Firebolt145 wrote:
Long ago Azarkon blessed us with insight as to how and why they do this:

Show nested quote +

I hope he said that before the final.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

May 09 2014 19:59 GMT

#106389

On May 10 2014 04:53 teapoted wrote:
I'll agree that's the myth that Na'Vi fans like to perpetuate yes.

Well if we are going with facts, they just win more the Empire across the board, LAN, online or otherwise. But I guess you have to be a good team to have myths about you.

Sn0_Man

Tebellong44238 Posts

May 09 2014 20:00 GMT

#106390

Teapot was a VP fan for so long you can't crush his soul by insulting his team Plansix, there's nothing left.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

May 09 2014 20:05 GMT

#106391

As a Redsox fan through the 80s and 90s, I feel his pain. However, he needs to step up his trash talking game is he is going to make up for his teams lack of results.

teapoted

United Kingdom24425 Posts

May 09 2014 20:05 GMT

#106392

I don't know why you keep on bringing up Empire.

I mean I have an Empire logo on my profile but it's not like I have the same sort of mindless fanaticism about them that you have with Na'Vi. In fact I wouldn't even say that I'm an Empire fan. I just had to change my logo as my personal rebellion against VP.

If anything I am more critical of Empire than anyone on TL. I was saying they shouldn't get a TI invite before the SL finals because they have no concrete results while everyone else were saying they were a shoe-in.

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

May 09 2014 20:12 GMT

#106393

Jesus, Tea, I'm just fucking with you. It's what normal sports fans do, give eachother shit about their favorite teams. Yankees and Redsox fans don't really hate eachother, we just make fun of eachother because it makes the game more fun.

Everyone in Esports is so fuck serious. Sigh.

teapoted

United Kingdom24425 Posts

May 09 2014 20:14 GMT

#106394

I know you are, but Empire isn't my favourite team.

And I don't know, in Dota I've never been really diehard about teams that I will defend what they do wrong. The teams I'm a fan of I'm more critical about than the ones I don't like.

While in other games/sports I used to defend Lyoto's shitty karate style, or Axslav's shitty wc3 micro. I don't know why I don't in Dota.

Maybe I just haven't found the right team.

rudimentalfeelthelov

Finland268 Posts

May 09 2014 20:36 GMT

#106395

Can you report people who have naked ladies in their profile pic?

Plansix

United States60190 Posts

May 09 2014 20:37 GMT

#106396

Which profile? Steam or TL?

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34505 Posts

May 09 2014 20:38 GMT

#106397

On May 10 2014 05:36 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Can you report people who have naked ladies in their profile pic?

Not the right place to ask, but yes. You can also PM a mod about it if you don't have reporting privileges yet.

youngminii

Australia7514 Posts

May 09 2014 20:40 GMT

#106398

6.81 Tusk is ridiculously fun. And strong. The snowball can be used in so many various situations. I'm using it to climb my mmr back, by going mid with Tusk and just ganking all game. With blink he's got a pretty crazy long range of influence, better than a lot of heroes. And he's SO FUN! Try him!

I build bottle -> arc boots -> mek -> blink -> euls/bloodstone/necro 3 -> boots of travel.

He's a pretty fucking good hero right now, once you get used to him. You can snowball enemy creeps as well. You can use it like Wisp and escape like he tethers a creep, but it's like better because no one knows who you're snowballing but you. You just gotta be in tune with your teammates.

~4k mmr fyi

govie

9334 Posts

May 09 2014 21:01 GMT

#106399

Have ballz and be a CIS or PR fanboy!

Veles

United States3280 Posts

May 09 2014 21:02 GMT

#106400

On May 10 2014 05:12 Plansix wrote:
Jesus, Tea, I'm just fucking with you. It's what normal sports fans do, give eachother shit about their favorite teams. Yankees and Redsox fans don't really hate eachother, we just make fun of eachother because it makes the game more fun.

Everyone in Esports is so fuck serious. Sigh.

"normal" fans seem to focus heavily on the team they follow for geographic/bandwagoning reasons. With esports, fans seem to follow the scene of their game of choice.

Personally, I'm interested in dota because I am a long-time player. I watch pro matches because they push the game to the limit. Most of the dota games played around the world involve incoherent picks and 2-1-2 lanes. High MMR has better coordination, tactics, and strategy but it is still fundamentally different from a stable team of 5 playing CM. I will never play at that level, but I enjoy watching teams play the best dota they can.