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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 09 2014 08:36 GMT
#106321
On May 09 2014 17:15 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 17:06 Torte de Lini wrote:
That Centaur set is just absolutely stupid. Why do you need so much armor on your fucking tail?

do u have a tail? NO?

Didn't think so. U wanna keep that thing pretty you gotta armor up.


I could have a tail! I COULD

I just don't want to
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 09 2014 09:02 GMT
#106322
Man you just don't know what it is to have a tail, don't try to enforce your non-tail-having ways on Centaur, if he wants to protect his tail, its his right as a horseman to do that
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 09 2014 09:45 GMT
#106323
phase lothars orchids on mid wr owns
fuck the team go 1v9 ez win
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
May 09 2014 10:24 GMT
#106324
On May 09 2014 14:23 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 14:21 icystorage wrote:
i'd go mek first if no other mek carrier on team before force staff

i play with 4 of friends almost always .. so someone from the team always buys mek for the team whenever we play

but yeah ill do that whenever i play alone

but what if i build up as a damage dealer ?

I pretty much always go the same items as wr dmg dealer (when I'm offlaning).

Your first goal should be getting phase + stick, and my usual followup from then on is force staff. The great thing about force is, that it not only helps you with positioning and landing those clutch shackleshots, it also serves as a way for you to make sure that you survive the early/midgame engagements - and if you're aiming for lategame, that's quite important.

Either way - after phase + stick I'll usually go sheep. It gives you great presence in teamfights, it makes you able to initiate quite well on solo targets (force -> sheep target -> shackle target), and the stats make you finally able to spam powershot basically as much as you want.

After this, your next item is super important. If you're greedy/they have a bfly carry, you go mkb. You can go orchid if an extra silence is needed, Linkens if that item would fit your team. Blink if initiating is a big problem (it likely isn't).

I'd personally go mkb, then get crit. And then for the last slot? I'd look at a linkens or maybe a mjollnir. I guess that smart thing might be getting a linkens and then saving money up for a rapier - either selling the force or the crit. Hm.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 10:46:14
May 09 2014 10:45 GMT
#106325
I really don't wanna go support items like mek .. of course i'll go force staff i love force staff on her .. it's pretty flexible also helps me to not get flamed by my teammates. And i hate lothars. Against an organized team it's pretty useless most of the time aside from initiation and WR has force staff forward initiation or power shot vision to shackles initiation.

the normal item build i go is

boots --> wand ---> force staff ---> finish phase or threads or BOT(if i am ahead) --->aghs -->crystalis/maelstorm --> another damage item

so i should go like this right if want to deal damage and not buy support items .. So this will be my new item build guys.

boots --> wand --> force staff --- > maelstorm/sheep stick(if ahead or needs more)/crystalis/orchid --> aghs --> another damage item

What do you think ? i still play as 4/5 position support since my team/friend rarely play support. They always go carry or mid.
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
May 09 2014 10:54 GMT
#106326
On May 09 2014 19:24 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 14:23 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2014 14:21 icystorage wrote:
i'd go mek first if no other mek carrier on team before force staff

i play with 4 of friends almost always .. so someone from the team always buys mek for the team whenever we play

but yeah ill do that whenever i play alone

but what if i build up as a damage dealer ?

I pretty much always go the same items as wr dmg dealer (when I'm offlaning).

Your first goal should be getting phase + stick, and my usual followup from then on is force staff. The great thing about force is, that it not only helps you with positioning and landing those clutch shackleshots, it also serves as a way for you to make sure that you survive the early/midgame engagements - and if you're aiming for lategame, that's quite important.

Either way - after phase + stick I'll usually go sheep. It gives you great presence in teamfights, it makes you able to initiate quite well on solo targets (force -> sheep target -> shackle target), and the stats make you finally able to spam powershot basically as much as you want.

After this, your next item is super important. If you're greedy/they have a bfly carry, you go mkb. You can go orchid if an extra silence is needed, Linkens if that item would fit your team. Blink if initiating is a big problem (it likely isn't).

I'd personally go mkb, then get crit. And then for the last slot? I'd look at a linkens or maybe a mjollnir. I guess that smart thing might be getting a linkens and then saving money up for a rapier - either selling the force or the crit. Hm.

Linkens seems to be a decent item pick. I always forget to buy that item in WR.
Why do you guys go MKB first as the damage item ? aside from pauper damage items like mjolnir or deso..

What's the motivation behind it ?
this is a quote
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
May 09 2014 11:14 GMT
#106327
On May 09 2014 19:54 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 19:24 Testuser wrote:
On May 09 2014 14:23 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2014 14:21 icystorage wrote:
i'd go mek first if no other mek carrier on team before force staff

i play with 4 of friends almost always .. so someone from the team always buys mek for the team whenever we play

but yeah ill do that whenever i play alone

but what if i build up as a damage dealer ?

I pretty much always go the same items as wr dmg dealer (when I'm offlaning).

Your first goal should be getting phase + stick, and my usual followup from then on is force staff. The great thing about force is, that it not only helps you with positioning and landing those clutch shackleshots, it also serves as a way for you to make sure that you survive the early/midgame engagements - and if you're aiming for lategame, that's quite important.

Either way - after phase + stick I'll usually go sheep. It gives you great presence in teamfights, it makes you able to initiate quite well on solo targets (force -> sheep target -> shackle target), and the stats make you finally able to spam powershot basically as much as you want.

After this, your next item is super important. If you're greedy/they have a bfly carry, you go mkb. You can go orchid if an extra silence is needed, Linkens if that item would fit your team. Blink if initiating is a big problem (it likely isn't).

I'd personally go mkb, then get crit. And then for the last slot? I'd look at a linkens or maybe a mjollnir. I guess that smart thing might be getting a linkens and then saving money up for a rapier - either selling the force or the crit. Hm.

Linkens seems to be a decent item pick. I always forget to buy that item in WR.
Why do you guys go MKB first as the damage item ? aside from pauper damage items like mjolnir or deso..

What's the motivation behind it ?


MKB = 33% of the time ur target is stunned with ult.
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superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
May 09 2014 11:17 GMT
#106328
On May 09 2014 19:54 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 19:24 Testuser wrote:
On May 09 2014 14:23 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2014 14:21 icystorage wrote:
i'd go mek first if no other mek carrier on team before force staff

i play with 4 of friends almost always .. so someone from the team always buys mek for the team whenever we play

but yeah ill do that whenever i play alone

but what if i build up as a damage dealer ?

I pretty much always go the same items as wr dmg dealer (when I'm offlaning).

Your first goal should be getting phase + stick, and my usual followup from then on is force staff. The great thing about force is, that it not only helps you with positioning and landing those clutch shackleshots, it also serves as a way for you to make sure that you survive the early/midgame engagements - and if you're aiming for lategame, that's quite important.

Either way - after phase + stick I'll usually go sheep. It gives you great presence in teamfights, it makes you able to initiate quite well on solo targets (force -> sheep target -> shackle target), and the stats make you finally able to spam powershot basically as much as you want.

After this, your next item is super important. If you're greedy/they have a bfly carry, you go mkb. You can go orchid if an extra silence is needed, Linkens if that item would fit your team. Blink if initiating is a big problem (it likely isn't).

I'd personally go mkb, then get crit. And then for the last slot? I'd look at a linkens or maybe a mjollnir. I guess that smart thing might be getting a linkens and then saving money up for a rapier - either selling the force or the crit. Hm.

Linkens seems to be a decent item pick. I always forget to buy that item in WR.
Why do you guys go MKB first as the damage item ? aside from pauper damage items like mjolnir or deso..

What's the motivation behind it ?



Below a certain damage threshold MKB does more damage than Daedalus.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 09 2014 11:19 GMT
#106329
MKB used to be the best single damage item you could get on her(Not sure if still) so if you only going to get one it makes sense. Also helps deal with bfly/highground.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 11:43:43
May 09 2014 11:23 GMT
#106330
oh i did not know that. i thought that mjolnir worked better on her.

does the mkb chance worth it when using the ult without aghs ?

this is a quote
Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 11:52:43
May 09 2014 11:51 GMT
#106331
New Deso seems pretty strong on semi-carry WR, or am I wrong? Rushing that Orchid straight out of phase boots always seems to be worth it tho. Getting Basi and another sage mask can be invaluable.
Erase and improve
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 09 2014 12:33 GMT
#106332
;_;
I bought 2 blindbox plushes from the valve store.
Got 2 warlocks.

Why valve.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 09 2014 12:57 GMT
#106333
ring of Prot+Regen>Basi>boots>stick>Phase/Wand>Force/Meka>Meka/Force>Sheep>MKB/Linkens>Crit/BKB(doesn''t very often get to this point) is my standard WR build I think.

Sometimes Arcanes are neccesary for the team.
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
May 09 2014 13:34 GMT
#106334
Phase Orchid Skadi. Gotta build the best item in the game guys
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 09 2014 13:41 GMT
#106335
now that they fixed molnjir it could be descent on wr to get all the other expensive items sooner or am i wrong?
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 09 2014 13:43 GMT
#106336
On May 09 2014 22:41 govie wrote:
now that they fixed molnjir it could be descent on wr to get all the other expensive items sooner or am i wrong?


She doesn't really need the farming power or attack speed. Deso is a better cheap alternative damage item.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 09 2014 13:48 GMT
#106337
On May 09 2014 22:43 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 22:41 govie wrote:
now that they fixed molnjir it could be descent on wr to get all the other expensive items sooner or am i wrong?


She doesn't really need the farming power or attack speed. Deso is a better cheap alternative damage item.


15k items is alot tho
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 15:07:33
May 09 2014 15:04 GMT
#106338
On May 09 2014 19:45 goody153 wrote:
What do you think ? i still play as 4/5 position support since my team/friend rarely play support. They always go carry or mid.

It's almost impossible to make the DPS transition off 4th position farm simply because by that point in the game, single damage items are not impactful. on a hero that already does not have DPS stats. It's generally a consideration for a mid Windrunner that did exceptionally well in lane, or an offlane Windrunner that crushed a 1v2 super hard.

Again, the key strength of that hero is flexibility. If you tie yourself down to a single item build or way of playing the hero, it'll very often feel like you're not doing anything because Windrunner is not strong enough in any one particular area to make focusing on that strong if it's not the right choice for the game.

On May 09 2014 22:34 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Phase Orchid Skadi. Gotta build the best item in the game guys

Rod of Atos is the best item in 6.81.
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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-09 15:37:16
May 09 2014 15:33 GMT
#106339
Anyone got brackets for the ECM (Excellent Moscow Cup) event sheever is casting?

Edit: Still groupstage. I thought they are at a lan already.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 09 2014 15:44 GMT
#106340
http://esportsexpress.com/2014/05/valve-disqualifies-beyond-the-summit-from-ti4-after-roster-change/
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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