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goody153
44292 Posts
On May 09 2014 14:21 icystorage wrote: i'd go mek first if no other mek carrier on team before force staff i play with 4 of friends almost always .. so someone from the team always buys mek for the team whenever we play but yeah ill do that whenever i play alone but what if i build up as a damage dealer ? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 09 2014 14:14 goody153 wrote: so i was building WR the wrong way ? haha i have been buying aghs after force staff .. the stats + hp + mana is nice and the low cd ult is pretty nice so i should build orchid/mjolnir first before going aghs ? i see .. but if we already have 2-3 damage dealers in the team .. like a tri-core lineup .. can i go aghs first ? i really like the low cd ult haha Agha isn't really strong until you already have damage items (it's basically a % multiplier on your DPS meaning that you need to have DPS already for the multiplier to be worth a lot) and even then it's often really hard to justify the slot in comparison to other things (you need MKB against evasion, usually need Sheep because your team needs to carry one, it's really rough overall for your team if you have to sell Mek, and often you need sustainability from either Heart or Satanic). Also note how the strength of the Agha ulti increases with ranks, and requires considerable mana to sustain multiple uses (even after the mana cost buff a few patches ago). Honestly in 90% of games, you're going to need to get Sheepstick right after Force Staff just because of how impactful Sheepstick is generally on the game. In most cases there isn't a damage item that will give you higher impact than having Sheep will. Usually the damage item transition for WR only works if you have a good solo tempo (e.g. you have a lot of kills and a level advantage). Orchid works here simply because it allows you to create solo kill pressure, but this is largely dependent on you getting so farmed that you can finish Mek+Orchid (usually delaying or skipping Force Staff) before enemy cores have BKBs. She's not a hero that can haphazardly go damage because damage items don't give her game-changing impact unless you have multiple damage items and an overall item advantage. On May 09 2014 14:23 goody153 wrote: i play with 4 of friends almost always .. so someone from the team always buys mek for the team whenever we play Even if someone else can make Mek, Windrunner is almost always the best person to do so when she's picked unless the alternative carrier is a jungler like Chen. It's very rare for there to be a "better" Mek carrier than Windrunner in a given game. This is largely because of how reliably she can get one because of how comfortable Powershot makes catch-up farm once you have level 7. Even if you can't farm lanes, you can double-Powershot stacked camps and get a Mek on time. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On May 09 2014 14:41 FinestHour wrote: the new buriza sound is kinda annoying late game on agil heroes I actually like it, its funny on Troll :D | ||
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Thienan567
United States670 Posts
On May 09 2014 11:46 TomatoBisque wrote: You should have farmed a Blink and ganked. I'm not really sure other than that since I'd have to see the game. Brewmaster is probably also a better mid than Dusa, although I'm not sure vs. SF Should I have farmed Blink before armlet? Because my progression was armlet->blink->bkb, which I thought was a good path. Vs SF? Really? I'm not trying to be condescending, legit I'm curious how. On May 09 2014 12:15 TheYango wrote: Lothar's can fit certain games, but the two main things are that typically PA doesn't have trouble engaging fights, and usually PA wants a more damage-focused first item due to her high Agi growth and large attack speed boost from Blink Strike. Most of her first few damage items are typically damage-heavy rather than attack speed-heavy. In my experiences with playing PA her attack speed boost from her blink tends to fall just a bit short of what she needs to ensure a kill via crit. IMO other than sticking to targets that's her biggest weakness. Hence why I was considering things like Shadowblade, among things like duffisal and skadi. Hell its dota man experimenting is part of the game haha | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 09 2014 14:54 Thienan567 wrote: Vs SF? Really? I'm not trying to be condescending, legit I'm curious how. SF can farm comfortably, but he's a 100% guaranteed solo kill at level 6. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22260 Posts
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quickben22
Croatia8 Posts
If anyone is interested User was warned for this post | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On May 09 2014 16:38 cecek wrote: Is it a good idea to just skip level 1 reaper's scythe on necro until level 10? The spell is REALLY bad at early levels, it will most likely do less damage than a single pulse, costs a lot of mana, is a long ass cooldown, so you might as well get an extra point into sadist/aura/stats. On the other hand, it's a 1.5s magic immune piercing stun (but nobody should really have bkb when you're level 6) and it will assure you getting a lasthit on a kill in a teamfight, which is huge, because you get that nice sadist regen, etc. Any thoughts? Did anyone experiment with this? how else are you supposed to guarantee a kill secured? | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
it doesn't cost that much mana and u only have one other skill that costs mana anyway plus guaranteed kills yo | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On May 09 2014 14:43 TheYango wrote: You mentioned feeling like you had a hard time feeling impactful in fights, this is honestly probably why. Windrunner's later-game fighting strength comes in large part from the fact that she has the flexibility to buy almost any team item in the game for her team without sacrificing her personal tempo because of how easy it is for her to adapt to the game. If you're not utilizing this and going selfish items where it's not appropriate, it will be very easy to feel like you're not contributing anything because you aren't. What boots do people go these days on her. I have an itching feeling to play some dota while stuck at work today. I'd obviously have to play my favorite ginger if I do play but as you know it's been what 8 months since I last played lol. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On May 09 2014 15:40 EvilTeletubby wrote: Holy shit. The new sets are all just so... bad. just like the last 2 chests :/ | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On May 09 2014 17:06 Torte de Lini wrote: That Centaur set is just absolutely stupid. Why do you need so much armor on your fucking tail? do u have a tail? NO? Didn't think so. U wanna keep that thing pretty you gotta armor up. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On May 09 2014 17:00 Numy wrote: What boots do people go these days on her. I have an itching feeling to play some dota while stuck at work today. I'd obviously have to play my favorite ginger if I do play but as you know it's been what 8 months since I last played lol. I got PT and deso on her last night >_> i was rather er...intrigued by her dps with that build lol. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On May 09 2014 17:18 BurningSera wrote: I got PT and deso on her last night >_> i was rather er...intrigued by her dps with that build lol. Lol we should play again, been too long. I haven't played in ages since I don't want to play alone and my friend graduated last year so he's back in Zim with no internet. Also real gingers build deso. You got to get that sexy red attack. | ||
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