Yeah i just mentioned it. Bottle is a must have.
hmmm now that i think about it the wraith band boost is unnecessary to get
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goody153
44292 Posts
May 02 2014 18:30 GMT
#105581
On May 03 2014 03:28 Targe wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2014 03:12 goody153 wrote: On May 03 2014 03:09 Targe wrote: On May 03 2014 03:08 goody153 wrote: On May 03 2014 03:03 Unleashing wrote: I don't quite understand why you'd want drum before radiance on naga, seems counterintuitive to buy an item that gives you early-midgame presence and then buy and item that lets you splitpush and farm. Also that seems quite slow for 25 minutes + 2 towers. I think the drums are for stats and MS makes you farm faster i think. Although i like aquila better since it's cheaper and regen boost is nice. Shit that means practice more .. What is the normal timing for radiance rush with the aquila + boots ? not the pro timing since i'm no pro why not both drums and aquila? edit: if you want a shitty timing my radiance generally comes 22-27 mins depending on how much ive died but thats with drums + aquila for me the purpose of aquila/drums are letting me farm faster. So getting the two would just slow down the radiance i think. And it's much better to get radiance faster than get both starting items. Idk that is my logic behind it. u need bottle too ofc Yeah i just mentioned it. Bottle is a must have. hmmm now that i think about it the wraith band boost is unnecessary to get | ||
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andyrau
13015 Posts
May 02 2014 18:31 GMT
#105582
On May 03 2014 03:28 goody153 wrote: to be honest i never valued quelling blade much i have always thought that early stat items are much better and getting the primary attribute stat item would just supplement the damage that qb offers. i never buy it unless there is a NP on the enemy team. it makes your illusions 32% better for 225 gold that's like 1000000x more efficient than getting drums | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 02 2014 18:32 GMT
#105583
On May 03 2014 03:29 SKC wrote: The biggest issue with QB is the stigma it got for being a noob item. +1 Same thing applies for Sange and Yasha. And the opposite for drums. Every scrub nowadays buys drums and thinks he's Dendi because of it. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
May 02 2014 18:32 GMT
#105584
On May 03 2014 03:32 cecek wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2014 03:29 SKC wrote: The biggest issue with QB is the stigma it got for being a noob item. +1 Same thing applies for Sange and Yasha. And the opposite for drums. Every scrub nowadays buys drums and thinks he's Dendi because of it. And boots first | ||
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
May 02 2014 18:32 GMT
#105585
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
May 02 2014 18:32 GMT
#105586
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
May 02 2014 18:33 GMT
#105587
I always wind up buying it and selling it like 5 minutes later because im like wtf did i buy this for. Like il buy it when im ahead for no reason and then realize i dont have money for a key item. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
May 02 2014 18:36 GMT
#105588
On May 03 2014 03:32 CosmicSpiral wrote: If you can get 3 last hits in lane that you wouldn't have gotten otherwise, QB pays for itself. Don't see how that's bad unless you delayed an item you really need. It's very hard to consider things in terms of "lasthits you wouldn't have gotten" because in a contested lane, having less stats also translates into using more regen or missing lasthits cuz the other guy is stronger than you. In an uncontested lane, every lasthit should be a lasthit you should have gotten. QB's effect on jungling and pushing speed are a lot more practical and measurable. | ||
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goody153
44292 Posts
May 02 2014 18:37 GMT
#105589
On May 03 2014 03:33 PassiveAce wrote: I never know when to buy drums. I always wind up buying it and selling it like 5 minutes later because im like wtf did i buy this for. Like il buy it when im ahead for no reason and then realize i dont have money for a key item. My reasoning in buying drums is whenever i need HP and my hero usually chases heroes and my hero is a non-spell dependent hero. | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
May 02 2014 18:37 GMT
#105590
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
May 02 2014 18:39 GMT
#105591
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
May 02 2014 18:40 GMT
#105592
On May 03 2014 03:36 TheYango wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2014 03:32 CosmicSpiral wrote: If you can get 3 last hits in lane that you wouldn't have gotten otherwise, QB pays for itself. Don't see how that's bad unless you delayed an item you really need. It's very hard to consider things in terms of "lasthits you wouldn't have gotten" because in a contested lane, having less stats also translates into using more regen or missing lasthits cuz the other guy is stronger than you. In an uncontested lane, every lasthit should be a lasthit you should have gotten. QB's effect on jungling and pushing speed are a lot more practical and measurable. I don't mean in terms of a contested lane. In those instances I would prefer more regen or PMS. In reality everyone misses CS due to human error. QB gives you a lot of leeway in that regard. Even in a trilane situation you can get denied semi-frequently by the offlaner. | ||
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Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
May 02 2014 18:41 GMT
#105593
On May 03 2014 03:33 PassiveAce wrote: I never know when to buy drums. I always wind up buying it and selling it like 5 minutes later because im like wtf did i buy this for. Like il buy it when im ahead for no reason and then realize i dont have money for a key item. Why would you sell drums short of being 6 slotted. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
May 02 2014 18:41 GMT
#105594
On May 03 2014 03:28 Kupon3ss wrote: Qb is good on every melee hero that hits creeps at lower skill levels not very good on mapo | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
May 02 2014 18:42 GMT
#105595
Another issue with QB, and probally a big reason why people dont like it, is the player that start with it and just a set of tangoes in a weak lane and expect to do something, but that's just people doing it wrong. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
May 02 2014 18:50 GMT
#105596
On May 03 2014 03:41 Jaeger wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2014 03:33 PassiveAce wrote: I never know when to buy drums. I always wind up buying it and selling it like 5 minutes later because im like wtf did i buy this for. Like il buy it when im ahead for no reason and then realize i dont have money for a key item. Why would you sell drums short of being 6 slotted. because I buy it without thinking when I dont need it and id rather have the money for an item I do need. Happy Bday DrPanda! | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
May 02 2014 18:53 GMT
#105597
On May 03 2014 03:41 DrPandaPhD wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2014 03:28 Kupon3ss wrote: Qb is good on every melee hero that hits creeps at lower skill levels not very good on mapo A 6k rated meepo player I watch a lot gets QB on meepo pretty early on. | ||
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Ru ba
Serbia1812 Posts
May 02 2014 18:54 GMT
#105598
pussies and supports buy regen,winners buy pro man shields | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
May 02 2014 18:56 GMT
#105599
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
May 02 2014 18:58 GMT
#105600
It's a little annoying to see PMS on ranged Agi more often than PMS on melee non-Agi when I think the latter is useful more often. | ||
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